I run 10 to 15 comb honey supers (med. and shallow supers) for cut comb and chunk honey sales at our local farmers market. The last couple of years i have drone cells on the bottom half of some of the comb honey frames? These frames are above the queen excluder and it's always drone brood no worker cells, an old time beekeeper (older than me) told me that in strong hives with several supers on, that you can have some laying worker activity in the upper supers? Makes sense to me, but was wondering if there could be something else going on here and how to prevent it?
PS. i have at times had this problem in honey supers above the excluder also?
Don't know what to say. I get drones in comb honey too, on occasion. I don't use excluders.
One thought...
I only use the best producing colonies to make comb honey. Two extracting supers go on in late April. In early June, colonies that are really filling these first supers get a comb honey super under the first two. There must be a strong flow on, or there will be drone brood in the comb. You want the comb honey supers on just before the flush of the flow, and off as soon as the comb is finished.
Thanks Mike, It's no big deal to cut the drone cells out for me because i don't have that many supers to deal with. I can see where a laying worker could be at work, i had another beekeeper tell me that he thought workers would carry eggs above the queen excluder? i didn't buy that. Just wondered if others had this happen.Mike, if you put the comb honey super under the extracting supers (over the brood nest) without a excluder, how do you keep the queen out? I do this with an excluder and then when they get most of the comb drawn out of the comb honey super i move it to the top for less tracking. I have a top entrance on all my hives.
Well, I would look at the brood to determine where the eggs came from. Is the resulting brood drone? Would the bees carry only drone eggs through an excluder. Doubtful.
It's the strength of the flow that keeps the queen out of the super.
You might consider a frame of drone brood (foundationless or green foundation type) so the bees can make all the drones they want in the brood boxes. My brother and I get a short row or two of drones in the lowest honey super in the spring in hives that don't have much drone comb, and I suspect it's because there isn't anywhere to make drones besides the honey supers and between the brood boxes.
Only in the spring, never see drone brood in the summer in the honey supers. Maybe we are lucky.
No excluder since we extract everything.
Peter
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Related Threads
?
?
?
?
?
Beesource Beekeeping Forums
1.8M posts
54.7K members
Since 1999
A forum community dedicated to beekeeping, bee owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about breeding, honey production, health, behavior, hives, housing, adopting, care, classifieds, and more!