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    Default Nucs from brushy mountain.

    So I go to order 15 DBL. NUCS from BUSY MOUNTAIN and they want to charge me 178.00 to ship now i know things cost now a days but come on that much ?!
    Any way i'm thinking about just taking REG DEEPS and split them in to two nucs with a divider has any one here done that and if so did you use a second box?
    I want to use them for winter nucs.
    I wish MANN LAKE had nucs.
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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Lauri has posted a thread, with pictures, on dividing deeps for two colonies.
    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...hlight=divider
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    I make my own equipment, and I recently started selling some of it locally. I'd offer the same deals to you as well, but my guess is if brushy mountain's shipping from PA to PA is $178.00, shipping nucs from NC to PA would be significantly more than that. But I can check if you would like.

    I've put dividers into standard 10 frame deep boxes before to use them as 2 separate nucs. I usually use a non-standard bottom board to do this though.





    The picture has a dummy division board and a 4-way bottom board. The 4 way bottom board will work as a two way nuc, but I also have 2-way bottom boards (just don't have any pictures right now).

    If I want to make it a two story, I just take a 4 frame nuc and put it over top one of the sides (Mike Palmer style). It works well. I just spent last weekend making up about a dozen 4 frame nuc boxes actually.

    If you'd like pics of that, or the 2-way bottom board, let me know.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    I believe Mann Lake does have Nucs...

    Look at Page 53 of their online catalog.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Glock,

    I'm using divided ten frame deeps to overwinter nucs and they're doing well.
    They were split too late to put up a second story, so I am using a single deep this year, and planning to use them 2 deep next year.

    The cluster in each box tends to gather at the divider, sharing heat and more or less forming a single cluster with a divider board in the middle.

    The individual clusters will be much smaller than you are accustomed to seeing in a single deep.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Parker View Post
    I believe Mann Lake does have Nucs...

    Look at Page 53 of their online catalog.
    Wow i quess i'm getting old never saw them after all most 4 years for spending money there.
    I figured i seen every page any way thank you .
    I'm still going to make some deeps in to DBL nucs. I have all deeps so i want to learn to use them for every thing like queens / splits/nucs/breeding nucs everything i can.
    Thank you.
    Say hello to the bad guy!
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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Specialkayme, looking at the second photo (on photobucket) after clicking on the first one; are thse feeders?

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK View Post
    So I go to order 15 DBL. NUCS from BUSY MOUNTAIN
    Busy Mountain or Brushy Mountain?

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    Busy Mountain or Brushy Mountain?

    Brushy Mountain sorry
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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    You are not that far from Brushy Mountains PA store ? They are just south of Rte 80 about 5 minutes. You could drive there and back for 20bucks or less?

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK View Post
    Brushy Mountain sorry
    Not a problem! Just was wondering!

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    I must say that I ordered a majority of my stuff from Brushy Mountain and there shipping is becoming very painful. On my next order if I can wait long enough I will drive to there Pa location.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK View Post
    thinking about just taking REG DEEPS and split them in to two nucs with a divider has any one here done that and if so did you use a second box?
    I want to use them for winter nucs.(
    We have made our own by dividing deeps, however using a full size box as a 2nd story is very tricky and even trickier when inspecting. I have abandoned doing that. For a second story, it is much easier to use a 4 frame nuc, one on each side, and then you can use a telescoping cover. If you use BM's queen castle, you have the divider rising up to contend with. I have used shims to deal with that, or just sawed some of it off. Search some of M palmer's threads and he has nice photos of his divided deeps with 4 frame nucs as the 2nd story.
    I also have some photos, but I simply can not master how to post them here on beesource- i keep getting error messages, so pm me if you want.
    karla

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK View Post
    Wow i quess i'm getting old never saw them after all most 4 years for spending money there.
    I figured i seen every page any way thank you .
    I'm still going to make some deeps in to DBL nucs. I have all deeps so i want to learn to use them for every thing like queens / splits/nucs/breeding nucs everything i can.
    Thank you.
    Have you considered building your own? The Dcoates plans on this website are just awesome and a much better deal than buying nucs from a supplier. http://www.beesource.com/build-it-yo...oates-version/
    You can get 4 5frame nucs out of 1 4X8' piece of plywood. If leave the bottom off of one, you can use it as a super (just have to do something to fill in the sides)
    I personally drill a hole in the front instead of the rectangle entrance and I make telescoping lids instead of migratory, but the rest of the design is easy. It doesn't matter if you don't have a bunch of tools or woodworking experience. I make mine with a circular saw or jig saw (in the past hammer and nails), and now an air stapler. If you can put together your own woodenware then you can make these nucs. If you have the hardward store make 2 cuts at 19 1/8 and 1 at 22", and 1 at 20" (if using migratory this measurement, if telescoping I believe it's 21 1/2") Then the rest is fairly easy with circular saw or jig. 4 nucs 20$ plus or minus depending on glue, paint, nails, and local price of lumber NO SHIPPING.

    ROd

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Mr Glock, go to frenchbeefarm.com They have a good description on two nucs in a deep box and indeed taking a honey crop off of them. Don't get anxious when it all appears to be in french, which is non-parleyvouable to me. The procedure is there in English. I recommend everyone look at it.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    I realized BRUSHY MOUNTAIN has a store alittle over a hour away from me down I 80 so i geuss i'm going on a road trip.
    This is great news
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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by rweakley View Post
    Have you considered building your own?

    ROd
    Your right i should just learn to build my own i have a table saw and building bee hives for dummies.
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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    How do you like that book? i'm thinking about getting it.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Glock, I bet you would enjoy making your own bee equipment, I Know I do. I have made just about every piece of equipment I have and most of it came from scraps that I brought home from work or job sites.

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    Default Re: Nucs from busy mountain.

    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    looking at the second photo (on photobucket) after clicking on the first one; are thse feeders?
    They are feeders Western.



    These feeders act as division boards for half frame mating nucs. Or you can slide them all to one end and use them as just a frame feeder for an 8 half frame nuc.

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