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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    to the op, and out of 19 hives that weren't treated for mites, one succumbed to mites, and one died to what i believe was a combination of queen failure and mites.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

  2. #22
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Wow that's pretty interesting Zhiv, was that a natural drop? (no chemicals like sugar dust or whatever?) If a natural drop I've never seen a hive with so many mites, untreated, and still alive 6 months later. What is the breed?
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

  3. #23
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Lost 1 untreated hive to a starve out. The other 6 untreated hives are doing well so far through wild temp swings from -12 to 65. February is when we will get the lion's share of our moisture.
    Zone 5a @ 4700 ft. High Desert
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  4. #24
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    All mine are chugging right along. We have had huge swings in our weather. Some of the hives are getting a little light so I will feed some sugar this week if it dries up enough to get in and out without getting stuck. All-in-All.... happy happy happy!!!
    Plant Hardiness Zone 6B, 5300 ft., Bee Zone A/B, Proverbs 24:13
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  5. #25
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGhost View Post
    had 35 drop in one, 72 drop in another and 26 I believe in the last one.
    Won't say what I did here but here is a pretty big mite drop. (1500+)
    http://db.tt/CNMoG0Md
    Buy the ticket, take the ride. -H.S. Thompson

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Quote Originally Posted by dkvello View Post
    we are having a bad year in Virginia, losses running about 50% for some (my self included) 3 of my hives had CCD symptoms ( no bees at all in hive) 2 were weak hives despite my best efforts ( I know, I should have combines them) and one who knows Mites maybe?
    That's not what I've seen at all. So far zero losses for me. Pretty mild winter, so that's to be expected. If you're losing 50% of your bees in southeast VA there's got to be other things at play.
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Now that's a mite drop.
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Go big or go home.
    Buy the ticket, take the ride. -H.S. Thompson

  9. #29
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Shenandoah Valley of VA... 7 hives going into winter, and seven hives active today (balmy in the 60's). I just hope they don't get started too early and then get hit by Feb/Mar cold snaps. Fingers crossed...

  10. #30
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    I'm in the Chemung valley of upstate New York.
    I've had temps swing from -9F to mid fifties.

    So far I've lost one nuc to starvation.

    I had to go out of state from Oct 2 til Thanksgiving, and by the time I got back it was too cold to feed up to weight.

    That nuc was a pretty late split, and was pretty well dwindled w/ no stores when I mtn camped it. I'd have been surprised if it had made it. It was in a single 5 frame.

    The rest of the nucs are in single deeps, 2 nucs to each 10 frame box.
    Two others aren't showing much activity, and may be lost as well. They are in the box at the windward end and have taken a beating.
    This my first winter in this yard and the wind is apparently pretty brutal.

    The rest seem to be doing quite well. I have one strain that has been out foraging when temp were in the 40's and bringing something back.
    Can't imagine what pollen they found, but they were bringing in light grey pollen.
    I think it is too early for willow .. it might be chicken feed or some other.

    This winter is going surprisingly well, given the neglect in the fall.
    Last edited by Beregondo; 01-30-2013 at 01:22 PM.

  11. #31
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    In SW VA, just west of the Blue Ridge. Went into fall with a little over 90, half nucs, half 10 frame. As of yesterday lost a little over 25% of the 10 frame, and 15% of nucs. Almost all are mite/virus related crashes in Nov and Dec. Plenty of feed on the hives, mostly honey, some syrup. A couple more hives are queenless so they will be gone too. Working on quality and not quantity at this point, nature is helping!

    Richard

  12. #32
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    With the exception of some mamal-induced losses (bear). I have 100% survival going into Feb.

    I'll take that.

  13. #33
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    You don't treat for bears?
    Solomon Parker, Parker Farms, ParkerFarms.biz
    11 Years Treatment-Free, ~25 Colony Baseline

  14. #34
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Wow that's pretty interesting Zhiv, was that a natural drop? (no chemicals like sugar dust or whatever?) If a natural drop I've never seen a hive with so many mites, untreated, and still alive 6 months later. What is the breed?
    That was a natural drop. The bees are local Ontario stock. Italian in colour, but definitely a mixed breed.
    Adam - Zone 5A
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Did they have brood overwinter, and what is their status now, mite wise?
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

  16. #36
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    It's so cold here this time of year, that there is no opportunity to check mite or brood status. I see a few dead bees here and there in the snow and take that as a good sign. I counted mites a couple of times in the fall and the mite drop fell steadily. I assumed that this was due to population reduction in preparation for winter.
    Adam - Zone 5A
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  17. #37
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metropropolis View Post
    CCD is characterized by the disappearance of foragers, not all bees.

    Absence of bees in the hive is indicative of absconding.
    My understanding is that CCD usually has a few bees and the queen left behind and all others gone, including brood bees.

  18. #38
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    OK Zhiv, well this would be quite a success story if the bees come through OK ánd I'd like to know. Please post here once you've opened it up & had a good look, cheers.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

  19. #39
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    Here's what the USDA Agricultural Research Service says about CCD symptoms:

    The main symptom of CCD is very low or no adult honey bees present in the hive but with a live queen and no dead honey bee bodies present. Often there is still honey in the hive, and immature bees (brood) are present. Varroa mites, a virus-transmitting parasite of honey bees, have frequently been found in hives hit by CCD.

    The full page is here:
    http://www.ars.usda.gov/News/docs.ht...=15572#history
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  20. #40
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    Default Re: Treatment-Free, Winter 2012-2013, How's it going?

    So far all four still kicking. Only fed one, but the others are getting lighter. Seem to be ok, but ready for spring so I can relax. Seems like I take winter losses harder than summer.

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