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  1. #21
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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    That cost does not include foundation. I can make 50-60 unasembled frames per hour, 20-30/hour if assembling them.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    AKA BEEMAN800

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    Yes, ML's are $1.65 for unassembled frames. I have about $0.67 in each frame in materials. It comes to about $1.90 when paying myself well for my time.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    I see $.70 in the larger lots.
    Even in the 400 lots they are only $.72.

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    My costs also get a bit lower when I buy in quantity. But I know what you're saying; you're right.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    I would like add a word of caution when splitting the top bars. Look out for the wedge it can come lose and cause kick back or take flight, good thing I had safety glasses on.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    What do you mean by "splitting the top bars"?

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    The quality on Mann Lakes select frames that are now being put together for our next season are some of the finest quality I have byfar seen in my 35 years in the business!!!

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    I have purchased quite a few frames from ML recently, and I'd have to agree with you. My frames work well, but in a pinch or on a spending spree, I definitely turn to ML!

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    In pictures 10,11 and 12, when ripping the 1 1/2" strip of wood into two for the top of the frame the wedge can come loose and shoot out at you.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    10. You should end up with several peices that look like this, basically cross sections of the original piece:
    Attachment 4128

    11. Now set your saw to rip each piece exactly in half, like this:
    Attachment 4129

    12. You should end up with a bunch of these:
    Attachment 4130
    If you mean one of the halves shooting/kicking back at you, I know exactly what you mean. Two minutes before I took those pics, it happened and I still have a good-looking bruise on my thigh.

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    You MUST use a push stick to push through both pieces at the same time. The saw will cut through the foot of the push stick, so keep the push stick in the same place every time. (I typically put it against the fence and then I'm fine. You'll need a 1" wide stick for this purpose) It will save your thigh. A push stick or a piece that would sit flat on the top of the top bar with a foot (To catch the pieces) and handle on it would be even safer. Other than that you'd need to go slowly / carefully trying to flip the piece end to end to cut through the piece. (which would be risky for sure!!!)

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    Great job on the tutorial. As I begin making mine for this year, I'm thinking of removing the taper on the top bars. Every time I remove frames during inspections, I "free" SHB that have been corralled under the top bars. I'm going to experiment with a couple boxes to see if flat bottomed top bar ends would be too hard to remove when propolized by the bees. If I can remove this dead space under the taper, maybe I can remove a hiding spot for SHB. Has anyone else tried this?

    Matt

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    I think you'd be fine to keep it straight. Kelly's makes their boxes so that the rabbit at the top has the matching angle so that there's no space there. The SHB do get inbetween the ends of the top bars and the box, however a hive tool does wonders to take care of them there as long as you do it before moving / breaking the frame free or else they'll just go down into the box. I have had bees propolis the whole frame around closing that gap. It was still easy enough to get the frames out.

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    Westernbeekeeper,
    Excellent photos and explanations on putting it all together! Also, thank you delber for the advise on the push stick. I'm thinkin I might just try this this weekend.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post
    Also, thank you delber for the advise on the push stick.
    Yes, use the push stick! it'll save you about 10 minutes of grovelling on the floor in pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    Yes, use the push stick! it'll save you about 10 minutes of grovelling on the floor in pain.
    Or perhaps a trip to the ER if it had been a few inches in a different direction.

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    Course by then there's nothin to live for!

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