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    Default How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Greetings all,
    Some of you have requested detailed descriptions, photos, and/or videos of how to make frames, since I have recently learned how to efficiently manufacture them. Well, I have put together a little photo tutorial that will hopefully help some of you. I like the finished product. Enjoy!

    Top Bars:

    1. Set the table saw fence at 3/8' from the blade.
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    2. Set the blade height to 5/8".
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    3. Next, set the blade angle to 10 degrees; when standing at the ingoing side of the saw, the blade should lean/angle toward the left.
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    4. Now, cut a piece of 2"x(4,6,8,10,12)" to 19" long.
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    5. Stand the 19-inch 2-by on end and run it through the saw.
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    6. Repeat on the other side.
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    7. Repeat steps 5 & 6 on the other end. Each end should now look like this:
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    8. Now, raise your blade to 2 1/2", and then set the fence at 1" from the blade.
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    9. Lay the 2-by on the long side and rip it into 1" sections like this:
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    10. You should end up with several peices that look like this, basically cross sections of the original piece:
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    11. Now set your saw to rip each piece exactly in half, like this:
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    12. You should end up with a bunch of these:
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    13. Now set up your router table with a 1/4" bit. Set the fence 5/8" from the bit and raise the bit to 1/4".
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    14. Now run each end of the top bar through like this:
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    15. Each each should now look like this:
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    Continued on next post due to photo limit.
    Last edited by westernbeekeeper; 01-28-2013 at 08:40 PM.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Continued from previous post

    16. Lower the bit to 1/8" and run each side of the end through. Repeat on other end.
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    17. Each end should now look like this:
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    18. Now set your table saw blade to run exactly down the center on the top bar, which would be 1/2" OC. Set blade height to 1/4". Run the bottom side of the top bar throught to make the foundation groove.
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    19. The finished groove:
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    20. The finished top bar:
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    End bars:

    1. Cut a piece of 2-by to length for frame size. These are 6 1/4" for medium depth.
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    2. Plane/saw the width of the 2-by down from 1 1/2" to 1 3/8".
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    3. Now use 3/4" router bit to run exactly down the (length-wise) center of the piece, like this:
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    4. The piece should now look like this:
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    5. Now rip the piece into 1/4" wide strips for the endbars.
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    6. Each piece should look like this:
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    7. Now set your 3/4" router bit to hang just 1/8" outside of the fence cutout. Also install a stop block on the fence.
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    Continued on next post due to photo limit

    Don't mind the attached thumbnail.
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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Continued from previous post

    8. Run each endbar through the router like this, and then repeat on other side.
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    9. The finished endbar:
    P1280123.jpg

    Bottom Bars:

    1. Each bottom bar is a simple stick of 3/4" x 5/16" x 17" (with a groove, shown later).
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    2. Set the table saw to run exactly down the center, and set the blade height at 3/16".
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    3. The finished bottom bar:
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    See next post for assembly

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Continued from last post

    Frame Assembly:

    1. Get everything you'll need. I use 1"-long 1/4" crown staples and glue.
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    2. Glue the top of each endbar:
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    3. Connect the endbars to the top bar.
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    4. Staple the top bar.
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    5. Add glue to the endbar where the bottom bar attaches.
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    6. The bottom bar/endbar joint is a butt joint (not stapled in this photo).
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    7. Staple the endbars to the bottom bar. I use two staples.
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    8. Add side staples.
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    9. The finished frame, one of the best.
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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    nice tutorial Ben.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    WoW! That is great, thank you
    "It's better to die upon your feet than to live upon your knees!" Zapata

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Could you put this on something like Photobucket with titles so that it would be easier to view? Or a PowerPoint Presentation would be best. Folks would pay you $$$.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    A lot of work went into this nice presentation, my compliments to you,well done! Wish I had a wood working shop to do more of my own building, but when all is tallied up I guess it is about as cheap to buy the supplies. Wish there was some way to drastically reduce foundation cost, let me know when you have a good idea. Thanks again, great job. Broodhead

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Thanks everyone. It goes quite quickly when you make the parts in quantity. Including my time, I can make assembled frames for $1.95 each, and that is cheaper than most bee supply places.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by broodhead View Post
    Wish there was some way to drastically reduce foundation cost, let me know when you have a good idea.
    You can drastically reduce foundation cost by going foundationless. Here's more info:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfoundationless.htm
    Make sure you use a comb guide of some sort. See the link.
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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    You can drastically reduce foundation cost by going foundationless. Make sure you use a comb guide of some sort.
    Right on, Rader. I go all foundationless in the brood nest: we'll see about the honey supers, but they'll probably have Pierco foundation.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Try doing that in a few hundred supers, foundationless wwill not work very well going through the Silver Queen and extractor.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by broodhead View Post
    Try doing that in a few hundred supers, foundationless wwill not work very well going through the Silver Queen and extractor.
    Right on; exactly.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Kudos Ben, great stuff!

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    excellent.... Its people like this that put so much effort into helping others that deserve the highest kudos... Just an excellent presentation... Thanks

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    I like the idea of using 1/4" bit for the side grooves on the top bars, that has always been a problem for me. The standard thickness of the end bars is 3/8" and I do not have a straight 3/8" bit but I do have a 1/4" bit, thanks for the good info. I guess I am going to bee making more frames.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    DC,
    They (1/4" thick endbars) work fantastic for me. All the older Dadant frames I own have 1/4" endbars and work great.

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Well done, Ben! Very informative....thank you!

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    Default Re: How To Make Your Own Frames - Photo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    Thanks everyone. It goes quite quickly when you make the parts in quantity. Including my time, I can make assembled frames for $1.95 each, and that is cheaper than most bee supply places.
    Is that with the sheet of foundation figured in to the estimate?? How much time does it take to make the frames ecpecially if u do a large quantity
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