Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 40 of 40
  1. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    KC, MO, USA
    Posts
    1,162

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by Seymore View Post
    Pardon my confusion... 4/4? These look like 8 frame boxes.
    They might be 10 frames, But each is a duplex.
    Right?

  2. #22
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Garland County, AR
    Posts
    1,076

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerPlanter View Post
    They might be 10 frames, But each is a duplex.
    Right?
    Oh - of course. I fixated on the total of 8. Thanks for the clarification.
    Zone 7b ~ Central Arkansas
    8fr medium equipment

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Nope, not 8 frame. Double 4 frame nuc boxes with a 4 frame super over each nuc...hence 4 over 4

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Trinity, NC, USA
    Posts
    142

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    How do you fabricate your division boards for the double 4 frame nuc boxes?

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    A 3/4"board rabbeted into the front and back of the box. You can use a 1x12 cut down, or two narrower boards ship-lapped together.

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Worcester County, Massachusetts
    Posts
    3,604

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Since we buy our boxes (and they already have handholds milled into them), i've been thinking of trying some strips of masonite stapled to the inside of the box to act as the "rabbit". I know one guy down here that did that, and said he had good luck. Of course, the strips can be simply pulled out if not needed.

    deknow
    The irony is free. It's the sarcasm you are paying for....ironically.
    -Felicity Jones in "Chalet Girl"

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Utila, Bay Islands, Honduras
    Posts
    67

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by johng View Post
    during a good flow you can use a deep box as a honey super. Once you harvest the honey you will have drawn deep frames to use later. They get heavy but, getting the drawn comb is worth it.
    Does the lighter colored wax that is found in honey comb work as well, (being accepted), as the darker brood comb?
    2nd Year New-Bee - 15 Hives, 11 Nuc's, 26 Swarms, 3 Cut outs in 2014
    Zone 10 - B - Utila, Bay Islands, Honduras

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Dean, you only need 1/16" deep rabbet to hold the divider.



    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    Since we buy our boxes (and they already have handholds milled into them), i've been thinking of trying some strips of masonite stapled to the inside of the box to act as the "rabbit". I know one guy down here that did that, and said he had good luck. Of course, the strips can be simply pulled out if not needed.

    deknow

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Worcester County, Massachusetts
    Posts
    3,604

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Dean, you only need 1/16" deep rabbet to hold the divider.
    ...which is much easier to put on the inside of the box with a table saw _before_ it is assembled....now, if I could figure out a way to work this with the rabbit on the outside, I'd be in business

    deknow (who's nephew is a good worker, and got all the boxes we have in stock assembled)
    The irony is free. It's the sarcasm you are paying for....ironically.
    -Felicity Jones in "Chalet Girl"

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    You can make the rabbet with a router if the boxes are assembled. Clamp a cleat inside the box to be used as a guide. Set the depth, of the cutter, and slide the router along the cleat. The depth of the cut should match the frame rest so bees can't cross over. If the hand holds are too deep, and the rabbet will cur into them, make it shallower and add a block between the divider and the frame rest to fill in that gap.

  11. #31
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Rader, Greene County, Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    5,989

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    ... now, if I could figure out a way to work this with the rabbit on the outside, I'd be in business
    If all your boxes are already assembled, and you want to divide just a few, cut a scrap piece to the right size to act as a temporary spacer from inside the box wall, then screw the divider in place. Move the spacer to the other end and repeat, and you're done.

    If you have a lot of boxes to do, build a router sled/jig from some scrap, sized to fit against a box edge and guide the router in the right location. Stand the boxes on the side you want to route/dado, clamp the sled, cut the slot. Easy peasy.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  12. #32
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Worcester County, Massachusetts
    Posts
    3,604

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Mike, yes, I could also do it with a skill saw and a guide....I was just having fun

    But more seriously, I do think that newer beeks with little equipment on hand (all of it newish), and limited tooling could cut the masonite and the divider with a skill saw and staple in masonite guides with a $10 electric stapler without making any irreversible changes to the equipment...and hopefully without making ay irreversible changes to the number of fingers on each hand. I'm just saying that for someone without a complete shop setup and with limited experience, this could be accomplished safely and easily at a portable work bench outside on a sunny day with a skill saw.

    deknow
    The irony is free. It's the sarcasm you are paying for....ironically.
    -Felicity Jones in "Chalet Girl"

  13. #33
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Well, true. But I sure wouldn't use Masonite.

  14. #34
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Posts
    191

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    Mike, yes, I could also do it with a skill saw and a guide....I was just having fun

    But more seriously, I do think that newer beeks with little equipment on hand (all of it newish), and limited tooling could cut the masonite and the divider with a skill saw and staple in masonite guides with a $10 electric stapler without making any irreversible changes to the equipment...and hopefully without making ay irreversible changes to the number of fingers on each hand. I'm just saying that for someone without a complete shop setup and with limited experience, this could be accomplished safely and easily at a portable work bench outside on a sunny day with a skill saw.

    deknow
    I so have little equipment, and currently only a skill saw. I saw this vid from the Fat Bee Man and thought it was pretty brilliant a simple queen castle or a double nuc box:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-c6MQbEs14


    I'm a big fan of FBM's vids. I think I'll do what deknow said, attach a strip or extra board inside the walls to make my rabbits, and will make this queen castle / double nuc box.

  15. #35
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Suffolk, VA
    Posts
    2,561

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Well, true. But I sure wouldn't use Masonite.
    What would be the problem with Masonite? Isn't that what Brushy uses in their queen castes?

    http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com...oductinfo/687/
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

  16. #36
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,331

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    it warps and twists and, IMO, isn't thick enough.

  17. #37
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Suffolk, VA
    Posts
    2,561

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Maybe I'm wrong about what Brushy uses. It is smooth on both sides. The two castles that I've used for the past two years have done well - no warping. However, one problem with them is that the dividers are VERY hard to remove once the bees glue them in place. I've almost had to destroy them to get them out.
    Horseshoe Point Honey -- http://localvahoney.com/

  18. #38
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    752

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Quote Originally Posted by AstroBee View Post
    Maybe I'm wrong about what Brushy uses. It is smooth on both sides. The two castles that I've used for the past two years have done well - no warping. However, one problem with them is that the dividers are VERY hard to remove once the bees glue them in place. I've almost had to destroy them to get them out.
    I use them too, and it is masonite. I can see over time they are not going to cut it and wood is going to be better. Try a hammer- that seems to help crack the seal, but does not work too well when the rest is filled with bees :-)
    karla

  19. #39
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Sacramento, CA, USA
    Posts
    2,794

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    Nice pics MP.

  20. #40
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts
    1,973

    Default Re: Extra drawn frames & swarm control

    I'm making dividers that hang from the frame rests. 3/4" thick stock. No box modification.

    Adam

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads