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    Default Breeder queens

    where can a person buy a breeder queen from? Just looking around to find them.

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    Default Re: Breeder queens

    Do you have a specfic strain in mind or just any breeder queen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Do you have a specfic strain in mind or just any breeder queen?
    kinda want a carnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by larrymn View Post
    kinda want a carnie
    Here is Latshaw's Carnies, which they have dubbed Karnicas: http://latshawapiaries.com/index.php...karnica-queens

    A little pricey, though, at $510 each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westernbeekeeper View Post
    Here is Latshaw's Carnies, which they have dubbed Karnicas: http://latshawapiaries.com/index.php...karnica-queens

    A little pricey, though, at $510 each.
    you say a little pricey, I say way pricey

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    Default Re: Breeder queens

    Just heard Dann Purvis teach a queen rearing course last Saturday, and he is selling some breeders this year for $275.

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    Default Re: Breeder queens

    Purvis has just switched to only selling breeders. He is out of the production queen business. He does have good survivor stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larrymn View Post
    I say way pricey
    That's what I meant.

    Standman has a good recommendation for Purvis, they're great too.

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    It is important to remember that breeder queens aren't necessarily good production queens at all. They are intended as a means to transfer specific genetics into a large number of virgins. If they come out of a proven breeding program (like Joe's) they may well be a bargain at twice that price. For most perhaps spending the same money on a couple hundred queens from a good breeder of your choice and selecting the best for your own breeder makes better sense.
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    Here is the list I have on file for Queen Breeders. I have another list for VSH Breeders. Latshaw would fall under the latter.

    http://carpentersapiaries.com/ - Italian stock selected for mite mauling
    http://www.arnoldhoneybeeservices.com - Italian survivor and Russian stock
    http://www.beeweaver.com/ - went treatment free about 10 years ago
    http://www.bjornapiaries.com - description is a bit weak but does say untreated
    http://www.coldcountryqueens.com - Russian stock untreated for several years
    http://www.honeybeegenetics.com/home.html - included because they did so much work on SMR
    http://www.johnstonshoneybeefarm.com - untreated since 2003
    http://www.mikesbeesandhoney.com/ - produces selected AI queens
    http://www.mountainvalleybees.com/ - Alabama producer, at least 12 years untreated
    http://www.oldsolenterprises.com - survivor queen stock program, survivor queens
    http://www.wildernessbees.com/ or http://www.owa.cc - 10 years no chems, Bee Culture published an article about them
    http://www.purvisbees.com/ - 10 years untreated, has highly varroa tolerant bees
    http://www.vpqueenbees.com/ - untreated since 1999

    http://www.dixiebeesupply.com - uses some soft treatments
    http://www.ziaqueenbees.com/ - uses some soft treatments
    http://russellapiaries.webs.com/ - has some lines that are varroa tolerant

    http://www.bushfarms.com/bees.htm - don't know if Michael Bush will be offering queens for 2012!
    http://www.russianbreeder.com - this is the Russian queen breeder cooperators website.

    I am still working on the list for breeders in general. Got focused on VSH for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim lyon View Post
    It is important to remember that breeder queens aren't necessarily good production queens at all.

    For most perhaps spending the same money on a couple hundred queens from a good breeder of your choice and selecting the best for your own breeder makes better sense.
    I agree Jim. First...II breeder queens...are they breeder queens or experiments? Crossing two lines via II doesn't necessarily create breeder queens. Install the daughters in production hives, follow performance for a couple years, and then you'll know if they're worth their salt.

    If you have enough colonies to use store bought production queens, follow the same procedure and use the best in your breeding program.

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    i'll be grafting eggs from the best of my best, that are proven in my location.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    If you want Carnies, I would highly recommend VP Queens in Frederick, MD. I bought two last year for $165.00.

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    I had good luck with a VP breeder too Matt. Their price has gone up since Glenn is out of the picture, and they no longer offer the open mated breeders I don't believe, which was what I used for bringing in additional diversity to my operation.

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    Default Re: Breeder queens

    got a web site for this place?
    Quote Originally Posted by matt1954 View Post
    If you want Carnies, I would highly recommend VP Queens in Frederick, MD. I bought two last year for $165.00.

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    site don't work
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post

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    Default Re: Breeder queens

    thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by matt1954 View Post

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