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  1. #1
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    Default Ok... I need answers

    Checked my hive today to find no live bees at all, maybe 300 dead. They were last checked (very quickly) on Dec.22 (it was warm temps) with tons of bees and stores. Stores are all there, no mites on the bottom board or feces, no AFB, no shb, conducted an alcohol wash on the dead bees.... nothing.
    Why would all the bees leave? It makes no sense.

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    CCD possibly?

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    How close was the cluster To the honey? How tight was the cluster? Softball? Basketball? How cold has it been for the last few weeks?

    I am thinking the 300 bees sounds like a small cluster and if it was cold enough, the swarm had issues even move a frame away to get to the honey.

    Chris in NJ

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    Why would all the bees leave? It makes no sense.
    Welcome to beekeeping. You might get ten answers but you won't know what happen until it happens again knowing what the possibilities could be. Do you have one hive or multiple hives?
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    Were the 300 clustered on the frames or on the bottom board? Any Pictures?
    Mike Forbes
    Red Dirt Apiaries

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    The bees were on two frames towards the top right next to the honey. Literally, there wer 300 or so dead bees left in the hive. Very few on the bottom board maybe 20.

    I will post pics tomorrow. I did have three hives... down to one.

    CCD is when the hive just dies right? All the bees dead all at once? The bees in this hive just took off. Wierd that I didn't see them clustered in a nearby bush or tree. Man... this has my mind reeling.

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    Maybe the live bees had enough warm days to clean out their dead? 300 sounds like a pretty small number. Any chance you are underestimating?
    Not Michael Bush. My name is Dan. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Beeman View Post
    CCD is when the hive just dies right?
    I think CCD is when the bees are just gone.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    Default Re: Ok... I need answers

    First you would only see mite feces in cells if the colony had been actively producing brood. Second…if the bees were dead, the mites would have fallen off and an alcohol wash wouldn’t have done any good. Third….if there were only a few hundred remaining bees and all the mites had fallen off…even a moderately high infestation would not leave a huge number of mites on the bottom.
    I am not saying that it was mites…I’m only saying that you haven’t established that it wasn’t.
    Did you test/treat during the season?
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
    Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards

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