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    Default Homemade foundation ?

    I have made some foundation by pulling window screen through hot wax, what size cells will be built ?
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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    THAT'S small cell bees! Seriously though, interesting experiment; I'm interested in what thoughts there are on it.
    Last edited by westernbeekeeper; 01-08-2013 at 09:16 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    As well am I, considering texture and will rough up surface in varying ways.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    It sounds like you are trying to just make a rough sheet of wax for foundation. I'm not sure how that would be better than just un-embossed foundation. Or are you layering the wax over the screen and the screen would be permanently encased in the wax? If it is the latter I think it would not work well at all. I could be wrong, I often am.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    It is, I think precisely, as you say, "un-embossed", foundation.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    I've heard that un-embossed (flat sheets of wax) will work, but the bees won't be too fond of it. They are not too fond of any foundation (given the chance they seem to like to pull their own comb). Not sure that putting square indentations (using the screen) will affect the size of the cell the draw out.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    I would be interested to hear your observations of comparisons between foundation and foundation-less as I am making similar inquires. I have constructed my hives with large windows on multiple sides, in part, toward this end. 2013 models will be as close to completely transparent as my ingenuity will allow

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    So I guess go foundation-less and purchase some candle making stuff!

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    -the brine board method seemed to me like an awful lot of trouble
    -made candles yesterday by pouring beeswax in pint mason jars, found out when they cool the shrinkage allows them to pop right out !

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Why transparent? I did not think bees were fond of light.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Ease in observation, that's an ole wives tail

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    FBM shows us how it's done

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lU3C4f2Xfc

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    Dang, that's cool! I thought it would be harder than that. I always wondered how you get sheets of foundation.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Just a discussion...
    A while back there was a thread about how bees make a round cell and not a hexagon cell. I don't want to argue that point (again) but supposing you made a foundation that was nothing but perforated wax sheets. Pick the diameter of your choice 4.9 or 5.4 for instance, you simply make a sheet and perf it to the dia of your preference. Do you think the bees would draw the comb out? What the heck, has it been tried before?
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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Interesting idea, but not sure how that would be better than the existing hex dies.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    It would only use maybe 20% of the wax or less and it wouldn't take an embossing roll to make it. The question is would it slow them down?
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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    You would need something for the holes, but maybe you could make something simple. I think the advantage of more foundation is they can draw it out requiring less wax from the bees. I would think that you would go foundation-less if you want less foundation. Bees seem to like that best.

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Guess I'll have to do a video

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    Default Re: Homemade foundation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shannonswyatt View Post
    I would think that you would go foundation-less if you want less foundation. Bees seem to like that best.
    Maybe they would but I see an advantage to use foundation because it requires less baby sitting to get the combs to come out right. To be honest with you that is my only reason for using foundation over foundationless.
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