Well it is official, I have lost 5 of my 8 hives so far this fall/winter. All of my 2nd and 3rd season hives are gone, and am just left with my 3 1st season gals. 2 were lost in the fall to mites, and I am sure that played a large role in the last 3's demise. The final straw was the cold snap we have been having. These last 3 starved within centimeters of food, 2 with honey on the same frame as the cluster. The clusters were a little less than basketball size. I guess I need to find some northern treatment free queens for next years rebuild.