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  1. #1
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    Default Which queen excluder to get?

    I have been looking thru Miller Bee Supply for some thing to buy and would like an opinion on which queen excluder to get?

    http://www.millerbeesupply.com/index...er&_a=category

    Looking here, I see a lot of choices.
    I need one for a Lang. hive with 2 -10 frame large boxes.

    Happy New Year btw,

    Bobby

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I personally have never used one, however I'm sure there are people that do

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I use the Metal Bound Excluders found here: http://www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeepin...25.html#HD-120

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by AUXCOM View Post
    I have been looking thru Miller Bee Supply for some thing to buy and would like an opinion on which queen excluder to get?

    http://www.millerbeesupply.com/index...er&_a=category

    Looking here, I see a lot of choices.
    I need one for a Lang. hive with 2 -10 frame large boxes.

    Happy New Year btw,

    Bobby
    Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

    BEE HAPPY Jim 134
    Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA.
    http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim 134 View Post
    Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

    BEE HAPPY Jim 134
    Jim is right; heed this advice.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I only use them when I am have a real issue finding the queen and do a dump and the only one not getting through is the queen. But, otherwise they serve no use. They only cause swarms.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Excluders are the way to go when it comes down to time and efficiency.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I also recommend the mann lake all steel excluders.

    Eastside, I'll bite... how does a queen excluder cause swarms?

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim 134 View Post
    Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

    BEE HAPPY Jim 134
    But are helpful if dealing with swarm cells.
    BeeCurious
    Trying to think inside the box...

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    AUXCOM,

    In case you didn't know, the whole QE thing is yet another one of those "3rd rail" issues in beekeeping. Almost all threads quickly devolve into the two factions. I suggest if you're curious then do a search here and prepare to spend the rest of the day reading the pros and cons of QEs.

    There's also an article posted in the POV section that you may find interesting: http://www.beesource.com/point-of-vi...oney-excluder/

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Astrobee is on target with his info, read the thread and see that it gives results to test taken place facts and figures are given no he said,she said.
    Johno

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    personally I prefer the plastic ones. Don't have bee space issues, stack easily and can be cut to fit 5 frame quite easily. Just don't leave them in the sun.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Quote Originally Posted by EastSideBuzz View Post
    I only use them when I am have a real issue finding the queen and do a dump and the only one not getting through is the queen. But, otherwise they serve no use. They only cause swarms.
    From my experience, I believe ESB is correct in that hives are more likely to swarm with an excluder. If you're going to use them, I would get the metal excluder that you can easily clean up burr comb with using a torch.
    President, San Francisco Beekeepers Association
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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    Metal here, never used it. Frame manipulation is faster and easier.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    If you want to run a two queen hive stacked its nice to have at least one wood bound one to stack two excluders together.
    Otherwise the metal bound ones are fine, I clean my excluders with a torch so the plastic ones wouldn't be of any use to me.
    Dan

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    Cool Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I use a mix of what ever I have on hand. Bought a lot of old equipment over the years. The Root wooden slat excluder works great until they get plugged up. They used lead to connect the wires together and so when you take a torch to them it screw the the spacing up on the wires when the lead melts.

    Just don't waste your money on the plastic ones.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I will put one on if I find brood in the honey supers. I will run the bees down out of the honey super put on an excluder and wait for all the brood to hatch before pulling the super.

    Robert

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I have heard some freeze plastic excluders and wax comes off easier than any metal.

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    >Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

    All of them violate bee space. The metal bound ones violate it on both sides. The wood bound ones violate it on one side. I like the wood bound ones, but have trouble finding 8 frame ones, so I use a lot of metal bound ones in queen rearing and two queen hives etc. but I generally don't use them in production.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 40y 200h 37yTF

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    Default Re: Which queen excluder to get?

    I use the wood bound ones if I want to make cloake boards out of them. Metal ones for queen cell finishing hives or other times I need to confine the queen. Generally don't use them in most hives, unless I am manipuating them somehow. They are handy to have on hand though. you can use them on to the hives to hold newspaper and sugar off the top bars in winter. Or use to let two colonies in divided deeps mingle on top the hive. (This only works at certain times of the year though)
    You can see I use a small pan head screw in the center to complete division contact. Bees mingle above for feeding or over wintering.






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