Which queen excluder to get?

[AUXCOM]

I have been looking thru Miller Bee Supply for some thing to buy and would like an opinion on which queen excluder to get?

http://www.millerbeesupply.com/index...er&_a=category

Looking here, I see a lot of choices.
I need one for a Lang. hive with 2 -10 frame large boxes.

Happy New Year btw,

Bobby

[ken rice]

I personally have never used one, however I'm sure there are people that do

[AstroBee]

I use the Metal Bound Excluders found here: http://www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeepin...25.html#HD-120

[Jim 134]

I have been looking thru Miller Bee Supply for some thing to buy and would like an opinion on which queen excluder to get?

http://www.millerbeesupply.com/index...er&_a=category

Looking here, I see a lot of choices.
I need one for a Lang. hive with 2 -10 frame large boxes.

Happy New Year btw,

Bobby

Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

BEE HAPPY Jim 134

[westernbeekeeper]

Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

BEE HAPPY Jim 134

Jim is right; heed this advice.

[EastSideBuzz]

I only use them when I am have a real issue finding the queen and do a dump and the only one not getting through is the queen. But, otherwise they serve no use. They only cause swarms.

[RAK]

Excluders are the way to go when it comes down to time and efficiency.

[Mr.Beeman]

I also recommend the mann lake all steel excluders.

Eastside, I'll bite... how does a queen excluder cause swarms?

[BeeCurious]

Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

BEE HAPPY Jim 134

But are helpful if dealing with swarm cells.

[AstroBee]

AUXCOM,

In case you didn't know, the whole QE thing is yet another one of those "3rd rail" issues in beekeeping. Almost all threads quickly devolve into the two factions. I suggest if you're curious then do a search here and prepare to spend the rest of the day reading the pros and cons of QEs.

There's also an article posted in the POV section that you may find interesting: http://www.beesource.com/point-of-vi...oney-excluder/

[johno]

Astrobee is on target with his info, read the thread and see that it gives results to test taken place facts and figures are given no he said,she said.
Johno

[camero7]

personally I prefer the plastic ones. Don't have bee space issues, stack easily and can be cut to fit 5 frame quite easily. Just don't leave them in the sun.

[Charlie B]

I only use them when I am have a real issue finding the queen and do a dump and the only one not getting through is the queen. But, otherwise they serve no use. They only cause swarms.

From my experience, I believe ESB is correct in that hives are more likely to swarm with an excluder. If you're going to use them, I would get the metal excluder that you can easily clean up burr comb with using a torch.

[JRG13]

Metal here, never used it. Frame manipulation is faster and easier.

[KQ6AR]

If you want to run a two queen hive stacked its nice to have at least one wood bound one to stack two excluders together.
Otherwise the metal bound ones are fine, I clean my excluders with a torch so the plastic ones wouldn't be of any use to me.

[The Honey Householder]

I use a mix of what ever I have on hand. Bought a lot of old equipment over the years. The Root wooden slat excluder works great until they get plugged up. They used lead to connect the wires together and so when you take a torch to them it screw the the spacing up on the wires when the lead melts.

Just don't waste your money on the plastic ones.

[Wilsonvillebeekeeper]

I will put one on if I find brood in the honey supers. I will run the bees down out of the honey super put on an excluder and wait for all the brood to hatch before pulling the super.

Robert

[RAK]

I have heard some freeze plastic excluders and wax comes off easier than any metal.

[Michael Bush]

>Hint: Wood Framed Queen Excluders breaks bee space

All of them violate bee space. The metal bound ones violate it on both sides. The wood bound ones violate it on one side. I like the wood bound ones, but have trouble finding 8 frame ones, so I use a lot of metal bound ones in queen rearing and two queen hives etc. but I generally don't use them in production.

[Lauri]

I use the wood bound ones if I want to make cloake boards out of them. Metal ones for queen cell finishing hives or other times I need to confine the queen. Generally don't use them in most hives, unless I am manipuating them somehow. They are handy to have on hand though. you can use them on to the hives to hold newspaper and sugar off the top bars in winter. Or use to let two colonies in divided deeps mingle on top the hive. (This only works at certain times of the year though)
You can see I use a small pan head screw in the center to complete division contact. Bees mingle above for feeding or over wintering.