Fogging your bees?

[GLOCK]

So who has fogged there bees and it worked?
I seen the fat bee guy youtube using mineral oil does this work?

[Maryland Beekeeper]

works great

[Andrew Dewey]

You may find a few people who currently fog and are pleased with the results. For most, fogging was a fad a few years back that ultimately had poor acceptance by beekeepers.

[Mr.Beeman]

There was a thread about three weeks ago that addressed this same topic.
Good advice there... and yes it does work. My uncle has been fogging for 30 years.

[mac]

30 years????? I thought Pedro started it around 2000. Just asking.

[GLOCK]

30 years? i tought the VARROA DESTRUCTOR was only around for like 20 year?
Is there another reson for fogging your hives?
Do you know where to get a fogger?
Thank you.

[Daniel Y]

earliest reports I can find of Varroa was in the 1960's and 70's for Europe and South America. 1987 for the US. 25 years.

[Dconrad]

30 years? i tought the VARROA DESTRUCTOR was only around for like 20 year?
Is there another reson for fogging your hives?
Do you know where to get a fogger?
Thank you.

This is where I got my fogger ...... I use FGMO and a few drops of peppermint oil


http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UOWSEYnjmi8

[jim lyon]

Barry: I hope when you threw out the old corduroy suits and hush puppies in your last closet cleaning that you saved the old mineral oil forum. Looks like its coming back in style.

[johno]

Jim, fogging seems another of the varoa stories that devides beekeepers, there is some info avaiable on tests conducted by some gentleman which seems to support the fact that is effective against mites. AS also the use of formic acid and am not to sure about papers on the use of oxalic acid. I have now the means to administer all 3 of those treatments and have made use of the first two, there is no doubt that formic acid kills mites and I have used afogger on some hives with EMO and 2 drops per oz and have seen quite a few dead mites on the bottom board thereafter. So come springtime that will be anther system I would like to evaluate.
Johno

[GLOCK]

So who has fogged there bees and it worked?
I seen the fat bee guy youtube using mineral oil does this work?

If you look the first post did not say any thing about treatment free.
So when your fighting about it being treatment free it realy don't have anything to do with the original post.
It was about fogging we all know what treatment free means.

[mac]

It was about fogging we all know what treatment free means.

No we don't. Just ask 10 beekeepers or better yet just ask 2. :-)

[mac]

So who has fogged there bees and it worked?
I seen the fat bee guy youtube using mineral oil does this work?

It works for him

[Tia]

I used to fog religiously when I started beekeeping eleven (12?) years ago. I got Dr. Rodriguez' manuscript and followed directions precisely for the first two or three years. The bees seemed to work up a resistance to the varroa and I haven't treated since then! When I did fog, however, I would do so as often as every 4 days depending on the mite drops. I used FGMO specially formulated for fogging and sold by STE Oil Company (www.steoil.com. Click on "FGMO"), I used a Burgess propane (not electric) fogger that produces a nice, fine mist. I would fog through the front entrance. . .about 3 seconds until the fog started coming out at the top (cant the outer cover a bit so you know when the hive has enough FGMO fog in it). That would be it. I am lucky enough to have very little varroa problem now. . .3 to 5 mites in a 48-hr drop! The girls really keep them under control. I keep the fogger and oil handy, though. . .just in case. By the way, it works like a dream on tracheal mite as well!

[GLOCK]

38.00 for a gal 69.00 for the fogger 107.00 total great bargin if it works.
Well see i'm going to give it a year and keep good records so i'll let the forum know how things turn out.

[Maryland Beekeeper]

Tia, did the fog kill the varroa or just cause them to fall off ? Did the resistance you describe developing correspond to the size of the developing colony ? How large/old are the colonies you describe as varroa resistant ?
Cheers,
Drew

[jmgi]

I would think that whether the fog caused them to fall off (which I doubt) or the fog killed them (my choice), it shows that the fogger worked. If you are getting significant mite drop after a fogging, why do it every four days unless the hive was totally overrun with mites and on the verge of collapse to start with. Using the least number of treatments to get the mites down to manageable levels for the bees is the way I would do it. John

[mac]

If you are getting significant mite drop after a fogging, why do it every four days unless the hive was totally overrun with mites and on the verge of collapse to start with.

In the video fatbeeman says “ if you fog once a week you ain’t going to have any mites” but ya only need to do it once every 3 weeks to break the mite/ brood cycle. Not sure if he uses sbb when I did a lot of the fog came out the bottom.

[jim lyon]

When I did fog, however, I would do so as often as every 4 days depending on the mite drops.

So would it be fair to say that your experience (based I assume on reduced mite drops)has shown a fogging lasts approximately 4 days and if so what did you estimate the residual mite numbers in the hive per 100 bees would be at after 5 or 6 consecutive foggings?