New Utah beekeeper, hoping to get started on the right foot!

[dmaddox]

Hello friends,

I am in the process of getting two cedar hives (10 frame, 5 mediums per) and am very excited.

I love this forum so far and yet still find myself confused on a breed. First off I love to learn and will do what it takes to make good decisions. With that being said:

Russians or Italians? I am worried about swarming, but love the other aspects of Russians. Out of 10 search results on the topic, it's 5/5 folks liking one or the other. I'm not sure which direction. I am in Utah, it's cold here in the winter, and hot dry summers. I have great water source and lots of pollen..

I also want to add that I do not want to use chemicals on anything. I'd like to be as natural as possible.

Thank you for any insight!

Best- dallas

[Steven Tervort]

Welcome to the forum! As to your question about which breed any of those will work fine. I can't speak for the Russians but I have had good luck with carniolans and Italians, but enjoy the carniolans best. Good luck on your adventure.

[JDA]

I also live in Utah in the salt lake valley. Been keeping bees going on my fifth year and still learning as each year passes. I've had Italians, carniolans, and Russian crosses. With the experiences I've had I prefer the carniolans. Just my two cents. I'm sure there are others out there with more experiences.

[dmaddox]

thank you for the welcome and feedback! i appreciate it.

I have also been considering carniolans seriously - and may go that route as I research breeds. Thanks!

[Lazer128]

Welcome!

[dmaddox]

Believe it or not, I ordered bees today. After much research and local advice along with what I've gleaned here, I ordered Cariolans. Seem to be a good breed here in Utah. I am excited about this new hobby!

[mtndewluvr]

Welcome dmaddox! This is my ending of just my first year and I've got Italians, plus a swarm I caught (probably Italians also...I don't know). My neighbor bought Russians at the same time I bought mine, and he seems to like them. I have them over to my house every so often when I open feed (ok, just once or twice!).

If you are interested in catching swarms, see my facebook group called 'Bait Hive Challenge Utah' for a little Utah fun (you obviously don't have to be an expert!).

Good luck!!

[Steven Tervort]

dmaddox, where did you purchase your bees?

[mtndewluvr]

Steven - We emailed earlier today and he got his at harvestlanehoney.com (Tooele). Turns out he lives a couple miles from me here in S.J.

[samoadc]

Why

[Michael Bush]

It's easy enough to change breeds later if you want. Just get some bees...

[dmaddox]

yes - as George mentioned, I bought them from HLH, harvestlanehoney.com

I appreciate all of the tips and thoughts!! Thank you.

[AmericasBeekeeper]

Welcome Dallas! It can be a bit cool to work bees all natural in Utah. Pick a sunny day!

[samoadc]

Start thinking of more boxes and more foundations as they may soon want more room and you don't want them to swarm away. Also natural is O.K. until you have a very serious problem like American Foul Brood then be ssure to use antibiotics and read more . Best of luck to you.

[ImaNewBeeToThis]

I'm going with a Russian and a hybrid walter Kelly came up with.