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    Question This one is for Acebird

    Your science lesson for today.
    I am sending this to my very smart friends knowing someone will provide an answer...!
    Frozen Water Bottle
    Molecular Levels
    Okay, you engineers, scientists and smart ones out there, explain this one!
    The frozen water bottle.
    Folks, this is really interesting.
    Don't know why this happens.....Do you??
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    http://www.sootoday.com/content/news...ryNumber=50683

    http://youtu.be/O47-QOWRTrk


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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Crystallization requires a catalyst under conditions of zero motion. I've had the exact same thing happen until I shook the bottle and it froze instantly.

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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    Crystallization requires a catalyst under conditions of zero motion. I've had the exact same thing happen until I shook the bottle and it froze instantly.
    Seams as though banging around in a trunk would create motion though.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Seams as though banging around in a trunk would create motion though.
    The man says "truck", not trunk.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Jim's just messing with us. When water gets cold, it freezes.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    It won't if not disturbed under the right conditions. My dad has seen lakes calm as glass freeze over instantly when a gust of wind finally caused rippling, and I've seen the same thing with a bottle of water in a freezer, it was still liquid when I picked it up but as soon as I swirled it, it froze instantly. I remember it being talked about in chemistry as well. You need a minor input of energy (in this case movement) to initiate solidification.

    and it's always true on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fot3m7kyLn4

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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    DING DING you are all correct, nothing initiated crystization. I saw this on my front porch yesterday. The water was liquid until it was disturbed, 12 F.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    It won't if not disturbed under the right conditions.
    So it is the vibration of the freezer that freezes ice cubes in your refrigerator?
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Yeah, right. I'd like to see him do that w/out turning it up side down. Bet it wouldn't work. Just because it got cloudy doesn't mean it was frozen. Bang it on something to show me it's frozen and then I will believe it.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    So it is the vibration of the freezer that freezes ice cubes in your refrigerator?
    Compressors vibrate.

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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    I guess that's why the gallon jug of water on the back of my truck froze today, vibration.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    ha ha ha what a load of crap
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    ha ha ha what a load of crap
    I'm going with the Canadian guy. They invented ice.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    they are tapping something down into the water, either it is laying on the bottom, or in the caps

    why is it that the water always freezes from the top to bottom?
    looks to me like something is settling down through the solution

    >>I'm going with the Canadian guy. They invented ice.

    blahha ha ha ha !
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    It's called Science...

    Look up nucleation and supercooling.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    its called BS

    head out today and try it lol
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    its called BS
    Haven't you seen a soda or bottle of wine ice up after opening it? One that was placed in a freezer to get cold.
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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    I've done this with un-opened bottled water, no trick.

    It's science.

    Try it.

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    Default Re: This one is for Acebird

    I can accept that there is some sort of phenomena at marginal temps but the man said that it had been exposed to -20 celcius.
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