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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beregondo View Post

    It's almost as if everything works if you let it.
    wish that were the case
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Deknow your are wasting your words ... He is a cut and paster and doesn't know much about machine tools.
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    He is a cut and paster and doesn't know much about machine tools.
    OK, Ace, Machine Tool Expert, can you explain why you told us that that foundation rollers in the 1800s were made by CNC and/or EDM machines, which did not exist until the latter part of the 20th century?

    Its there for all to see in your post #73, and reproduced below for your convenience.

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    I would imagine making such a thing w/ great accuracy might be more difficult than making a Frederick Remington original cast figure. Does anyone know how they were originally made in the mid 1800s?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    There are two process that I know of for making rotary dies, CNC milling and EDM. These are specialized machines and very precise. Yes Oldtimer when you come around the other side it has to be a perfect match. This is the problem with the pitch dia of the gears.
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    That is done on a lathe, but it's not turning....it's knurling.....deforming, not cutting. You can also spin on a lathe, which is also not turning.
    You do lathework, Deknow?
    Last edited by Oldtimer; 12-22-2012 at 02:01 PM. Reason: added quote for clarity
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Yes, in my "previous life" I made top of the line, handmade orchestral flutes and piccolos. I designed/made tooling, jigs, etc, in addition to the handwork. Did some work in the medical device field as well....I'm very good with a lathe, not as much experience milling. Currently I have only a small Chinese lathe, but I'm very impressed with its performance, especially for the price.

    deknow

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    This part refers to today Rader:
    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    I would imagine making such a thing w/ great accuracy might be more difficult than making a Frederick Remington original cast figure.
    So does this:

    There are two process that I know of for making rotary dies,
    Is that any clearer for your pee brain?
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    I'm very good with a lathe, not as much experience milling.
    deknow
    Seems we have yet another thing in common. I inherited a lathe from my father in law, who had spent most of his life working as a "turner", for Rolls Royce, in Derbyshire, but he came to NZ to join his daughter in his retirement. He shipped over his lathe and other tools from his home workshop, watching him use it was beautiful. Anything lathe, he could make it. I tried to learn off him, but of course nothing I do can match his 40 years of experience.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Ace, the quotes you "pasted" into your response above were incomplete as posted in post #73. You seem to be having some difficulty, so I have reproduced post #73 exactly as you wrote it.




    I repeat, why are you you quoting Mark's question about the 1800s and respond with an answer that refers to 20th century technology?


    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Is that any clearer for your pee brain?
    Allow me to suggest that you are getting into dangerous territory by posting your opinion of another Beesource member's physical characteristics. Do you really want to get banned from Beesource, as you did in that other forum?

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Rader, yer Sidetracking. Brian answers the questions he thinks he hears. People get after me for correcting peoples spelling, saying "You know what they meant. What does it matter how they spelled it." So, maybe we should just let this go and understand it as the way Brian addresses things, outside the Post. lol
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    and today's winner of 'gotcha' is.........
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Rader, yer Sidetracking. Brian answers the questions he thinks he hears. People get after me for correcting peoples spelling, saying "You know what they meant. What does it matter how they spelled it." So, maybe we should just let this go and understand it as the way Brian addresses things, outside the Post. lol
    Well, Mark, if you are saying Brian means something other than what he writes, my question is why doesn't he simply do some thinking first, and then write what he really means?
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    I don't think there is an active member of beesource that has never said something with complete authority and been obviously mistaken. With that said, no, I do not believe that Acebird was claiming that mills built in the 1800's were built with cnc machines and edm equipment (and the edm electrodes would likely be cnc machined). I don't think that he believes in some steampunk CNC treadle powered machine with an abacus to input the tool path.

    deknow

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    pee brain
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    100% percent agree with dean. (whatever the heck he said......)
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    i gathered up a bunch of samples of natural comb today and measured it.

    would this be a good thread to post pictures or would a new one be in order?
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Does Steampunk Beekeeping work?

    Has anyone seen a Steampunk decorated hive?
    BeeCurious
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by squarepeg View Post
    i gathered up a bunch of samples of natural comb today and measured it.

    would this be a good thread to post pictures or would a new one be in order?
    This thread was meant to be satirical...
    BeeCurious
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    oh, now i get it (takes me awhile sometimes )

    new thread it is then.

    but first i have to go to the dollar general and see if they a good milimeter ruler for the photos.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by deknow View Post
    I do not believe that Acebird was claiming that mills built in the 1800's were built with cnc machines and edm equipment
    Who would?
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    Default Re: Does "Large Cell" Beekeeping work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    This thread was meant to be satirical...
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