John & Wayne's Honey Stick device

[BeeCurious]

Are you getting a patent on the hot plate?

How about the $29 impulse sealer?

Squeezing honey into a straw isn't novel enough to warrant a patent. And there is prior art of your exact arrangement...

[beeman2009]

Flewster,

Don't let these guys rattle your cage. Whatever the reason there will always be some who have something to say. Keep up your work, make improvements if you can or want to. I wonder how many would be here on beesource if Langstroth had listen to all the negative coments in his day.

Anyway, we are out of work right now, but when it picks up I would like one of your machines.

[AstroBee]

Are you getting a patent on the hot plate?

Gosh, give the guy a break. He came up with a prototype that works. How many similar devices on beesource have you seen since 2007? I've been here a good number of years and haven't seen many functional honey straw devices brought forward.

Flewster,

Thanks for having the willingness to throw your ideas into our forum!

[Flewster]

Are you getting a patent on the hot plate?

How about the $29 impulse sealer?

Squeezing honey into a straw isn't novel enough to warrant a patent. And there is prior art of your exact arrangement...

No wonder you havent came up with a better idea. Your trying to use a cheap $29 sealer and not a quality sealer from the leader in impulse sealers, such as i use and send with my machine.

[cerezha]

There is no "machine" that can be patented.

I do not understand. I could patent anything if it was not patented before - I just need to pay $20K (more?) to reserve the idea, thing, whichever for me. Patent would just declare my ownership of the thing. The best example of patenting smartness was Singer, who patented the hole in the tip of the needle. The president of company called me another day - they patented the new way of sequencing DNA using electron microscope, but they actually do not know how to do it. They wanted me to do the job to prove that their patent make sense. I made what they wanted and now they are very unhappy because I did something, which they could not do. Now they do not want to pay me for the job. Patenting law in this country is weird.

[cerezha]

... There are those that find it necessary to nit pick and say things they have no clue about. I have to wonder their motive. ....

Don't take anything personal on beesource Flewster. This is place where bee-lovers are socializing and have fun. It is not patenting bureau. But, in this chatter, one could find a grain of useful information. The fact that people discuss your device is already beneficial to you - your device is already on top in google search! Good luck with your device and happy holidays! Sergey

[adamant]

[QUOTE=beeman2009;875384]Flewster,

Don't let these guys rattle your cage. Whatever the reason there will always be some who have something to say. Keep up your work, make improvements if you can or want to. I wonder how many would be here on beesource if Langstroth had listen to all the negative coments in his day.

Amen!

[BeeCurious]

No wonder you havent came up with a better idea.

Do you want a better idea?

Install tee's above the manifold valves so you can fill two straws from each value. The honey should enter each pair of straws equally...

[Flewster]

Now that is not too bad an idea. right now it uses up almost the whole 16" of the sealer. Might make it too wide with the tee's but can see where your going with that.

[Lynx Hive]

Now that is not too bad an idea. right now it uses up almost the whole 16" of the sealer. Might make it too wide with the tee's but can see where your going with that.

Hello!
I would like to ask - do you have some very special kind of sealer? I bought one usual sealer, that is usually offered here in Europe, but it does not seal my straws normally - they are leaking. Maybe the problem is in improper wattage - I have a 300W unit.
Or maybe I need some special straws? I have tried several types of cocktail straws, but with none I have succeeded to have non leaking straws... Could you give some comment on that, please!!!

[Flewster]

300 watt is not enough for what your doing. I recommend at least a 750 watt unit and a good tip is that when you seal........have it set pretty high and hold the sealer down for several seconds after the sealer turns off to set teh seal in place. Firm pressure is needed to complete the seal. Good luck to you.

Wayne

[Mr.Beeman]

Flewster,
You may be too thin skinned to be an inventor. But then again, maybe not. I've invented a dozen products and sold the patents of a few.
Most of the best "upgrades" I received was from a different set of eyes seeing the product from a different view. Critics are your best friends in this business as you just witnessed from BC.
I have another idea that will literally be worth millions. That's just for the patent.

[Lynx Hive]

300 watt is not enough for what your doing. I recommend at least a 750 watt unit and a good tip is that when you seal........have it set pretty high and hold the sealer down for several seconds after the sealer turns off to set teh seal in place. Firm pressure is needed to complete the seal. Good luck to you.

Wayne

Ouch, I see the problem!!! Yes, I am definitely holding the pressure for long enough time after the sealer have turned off, but still most of the straws are leaking. We even "tuned-up" the sealer to have a longer sealing time than default max. time - still without a luck. So now I see where is the main problem - not enough sealing power! Thank you very much for the advice!

By the way - how much that 750 W sealer costs in USA? If I won't be able to get one in Europe, I will have to buy one from USA, and maybe even together with your system. Thanks!

[Mr.Beeman]

Lynx


http://www.plasticbagpartners.com/Ha...er_s/11315.htm

$115.00

[Flewster]

I have the sealer i recommend for sale on my site www.honeystickmachine.com i wish you luck in your endeavor and if you have any questions dont hesitate to pm me on here.