Doing something w/out external direction gives one plenty of time to develope bad habits.

My Dad once said "Don't take driving lessons from a race car driver that crashes." Whether that fits or not, I'm not sure.

As an employer, not really, I don't employ anyone, I would rather have an interested blank slate than someoner w/ a little book learning who wants to know the why of every move. I had a helper this past Summer and he was good at helping and waited until the work was done to discuss what we did and what we saw. That was good and helpful.

Whether the Penn State Forum is worth the cost is up to the user. I sure hope you all send Barry 10% of the Penn State cost to support so it will continue to be here for our education and entertainment.