Beeswax question

[shane-or.]

http://www.bulkapothecary.com/produc...FWrZQgodNzMAaQ


Have any of you ever used wax from here ? I bought some to make some waterproofing mix's but I can't keep it all mixed, I keep getting little pieces that separate out and can't get any mixed consistency, and when the melted wax sets up it gets hard enough you can barely cut it, Im wondering if maybe it's not straight beeswax ??

Thanks in advance for any response

[KQ6AR]

Never tried their wax, but pure beeswax is very hard when solid. Sometimes I'll drop a large piece on concrete to shatter it into smaller pieces.

[Acebird]

If it is pure bees wax then it is not filtered. Anytime you process something it is different than what you had to start with.

[Cleo C. Hogan Jr]

acebird,.... That is not true.... unless it has been filtered, (or pocessed in some manner), and impurities (not beeswax) removed, it is not pure beeswax, because it contains impurities, dirt, slumgum, dead bees. leaves etc.

Being different is not the same as being PURE.

cchoganjr

[Barry]

Anytime you process something it is different than what you had to start with.

Just like you taking a shower, or do you take baths? Through the process you end up different than before the process, you're clean, but you're still an Ace!

[Acebird]

Interesting...
So if I ultra filter honey and take out all the "impurities" then I have pure honey and natural honey is an imitation?

[jim lyon]

I think it is interesting that many feel that the result of a filtering process which removes pollen, wax and also any suspended contaminants actually results in a product that is less pure.

[Barry]

Ah oh, down the rabbit hole I go. Ace, as usual, you start your argument with "filter" wax and then switch to "ultra filter" honey.

[Rader Sidetrack]

Ah oh, down the rabbit hole I go.

And Acebird got another step closer to his 6,000 post target. Only 913 more to go! No time for deep thinking.

[Cleo C. Hogan Jr]

Ace...In this case you are correct. If you want anything "PURE," you MUST remove any impurities. That is why it is called PURE, it contains no impurities. From a chemical, biological, and everything else standpoint, what people commonly call PURE HONEY, is to be techinal, RAW Honey. and there is a difference, even tho, in bee language, usage over the years, they have come to be interchangable. No one makes a big difference in the two. Milk is another example of common usage and terminology vrs political correctness.

Use water as an example as to what it takes to make it PURE. PURE WATER is H2O, two parts hydrogen to each part of oxygen. Anything else in the water, (for instance calcium, sulphur, iron,) and it is not PURE WATER, However, common acceptance has it that minute traces of foreign elements does not prevent water plants and bottlers, from calling their water, PURE Water. Not everyone lives in a perfect world. (fortunately only a few of us chemists and biologists).

cchoganjr

[Acebird]

Ace, as usual, you start your argument with "filter" wax and then switch to "ultra filter" honey.

http://www.bulkapothecary.com/produc...FWrZQgodNzMAaQ
This link is not ultra filtered wax? They are taking the color out (supposedly naturally).

Yes Cleo, but are we all chemist? Language has different meanings depending on who is speaking. If you have never heard an Englishman speak and he has never heard an American speak the conversation would be difficult speaking the same language.

[Acebird]

Use water as an example as to what it takes to make it PURE. PURE WATER is H2O, two parts hydrogen to each part of oxygen. Anything else in the water, (for instance calcium, sulphur, iron,) and it is not PURE WATER, However, common acceptance has it that minute traces of foreign elements does not prevent water plants and bottlers, from calling their water, PURE Water. Not everyone lives in a perfect world. (fortunately only a few of us chemists and biologists).

Technically you have to take out all the gasses so it would only be pure in a vacuum.
Is that how a Physicist thinks?

[BeeCurious]

And Acebird got another step closer to his 6,000 post target. Only 913 more to go! No time for deep thinking.

This thread has Acebirdger's...

[Rader Sidetrack]

Thanks in advance for any response

Now that your honest question has been thoroughly trashed by Acebird, here is a link to an earlier thread you may find useful:

http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...il-and-beeswax

In particular, note the comment by Windfall (post #7)

[Cleo C. Hogan Jr]

Thanks Raider Sidetrack for getting us back to the subject at hand.

cchoganjr

[Luterra]

"Pure" is a fairly meaningless adjective these days in any context, rather like "natural." Thus it is purely natural that many futile arguments will ensue.

[shane-or.]

Thanks to all that responded, even to the ones arguing . It's amusing to me to see people trying to see who can pee up the post further than the other, even if there's a chance the wind will come up and blow it back on them...
Thanks for the link rader, the YouTube video is exactly what I was trying to make but can't get that consistency, I seen a post on here earlier that I didn't get a chance to completely read but now it's gone, wished the author wouldn't have deleted or changed it.

Thanks again all, I will have more questions in the future and hope you all will help

[oldiron56]

I agree pissing up the pole

Thanks to all that responded, even to the ones arguing . It's amusing to me to see people trying to see who can pee up the post further than the other, even if there's a chance the wind will come up and blow it back on them...
Thanks for the link rader, the YouTube video is exactly what I was trying to make but can't get that consistency, I seen a post on here earlier that I didn't get a chance to completely read but now it's gone, wished the author wouldn't have deleted or changed it.

Thanks again all, I will have more questions in the future and hope you all will help

[oldiron56]

I agree pissing up the pole

I ha
da poodle that would stand on his front legto get higher

[Jim 134]

I agree pissing up the pole

IMHO More like bird pooooo

I apologized for going
All I need to do is the remarks on question so at may help a beekeeper
And I do apologized to you (Acebird) and the forum


BEE HAPPY Jim 134