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  1. #1
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    Sad Honeybear did not care

    I just joined your site as I need advice with a problem. It is deer hunting and a hunter must have disturbed a bear yesterday, as last night a bear busted my hive apart ate all the honey and I've lost half of my bees. We have had a cold week and last night it was 27 degrees with a high of 34 today. We moved the hive into a well ventilated shed where they will be safe but with no food and winter coming is all hope lost for their survival.
    Thanks, Sue

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    If you are saying the bees are OK, but have no stored honey anymore, it is possible to feed them sugar to get them thru the winter. There are quite a few options, this page from Michael Bush's site discusses many of them:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfeeding.htm

    Personally, I'd just use granulated white sugar, placed on a sheet of newspaper above the frames where the bees are clustered. Put an empty hive body over the sugar to protect it.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    How many frames of bees do you think you have left?

    If you have 5-6 frames left I think you will be ok. I would reduce them down to one deep box and and either dry sugar feed or make a candy board.

    If you need help with the hive or with a candy board pm me. We are only a few miles apart.
    Pearl City Apiary Michael and Loucil Bach

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    What does a deer hunter have to do with you having a hungry bear? Did the hunter show the bear where your hives are? Seriously, do you have an idea if you still have the queen in the mix some where. WVMJ

    Quote Originally Posted by oh!honey View Post
    I just joined your site as I need advice with a problem. It is deer hunting and a hunter must have disturbed a bear yesterday, as last night a bear busted my hive apart ate all the honey and I've lost half of my bees. We have had a cold week and last night it was 27 degrees with a high of 34 today. We moved the hive into a well ventilated shed where they will be safe but with no food and winter coming is all hope lost for their survival.
    Thanks, Sue
    Meadmaking with WVMJ at Meads and Elderberry Winemaking

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    u could feed the bees some honey too just saying.

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    These few bees are not worth the efforts of survival. You need to keep the bee yard behind an electric fence or will have a visitor time and again. Sorry.

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Bear steaks are good eating. Buy a tag and eliminate the problem.

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Sorry about your loss - I once lost 10 colonies to bear. Never again. 3 of my 5 yards now have electric fences powered by solar energizers. The other two are in areas where I'm not overly concerned about bears.

    The bears should be hibernating soon, so you've got a bit of time to put together your defense. There are lots of resources on the internet about bees and bear fencing; the most important point is the fence needs to be up and operating before bears learn of the tasty treats waiting for them. While bears will and do eat honey what they are generally after in spring is bee brood. Protein for bruins. Spring and early summer are the times when bears are most problematic for beekeepers, but as you found out they can do damage late in the year too!

    Unfortunately in agriculture your best efforts and desires are often not enough to accomplish what you want. Given what you report the hive is unlikely to survive as a solo unit. If it were me I'd combine the surviving bees with another colony.

    So it goes.

    Bear fencing is not a physical barrier so it does not need to be super strong. What I have is electric netting, commonly sold as sheep fence, with additional grounding. 36-40 inches tall is plenty. The fence should be far enough away from the hives so that a bear can't reach over the fence and get to the hive. Be sure to test the fence once you have it up - either by grabbing it yourself or using a tester. Grabbing it will tell you if it works - the tester will tell you how well. I suggest the tester.
    Master Beekeeper (EAS) and Master Gardener (U Maine CE) www.beeberrywoods.com

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Dewey View Post
    Grabbing it will tell you if it works ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Dewey View Post
    ... the tester will tell you how well. I suggest the tester.
    If you don't want to spend money for a commercial tester, you can make one from a scrounged spark plug, and a scrounged ignition wire with a connector that fits to the sparkplug. I just bent a piece of scrap wire into a hook and attached that to the other end of the ignition wire. Gap the plug to your desired spark size. I just hook a ground wire with one end of the ignition wire, then touch the body of the spark plug to the hot fence wire. Works pretty well, and is free!
    Graham
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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    That dang bear!!!

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    I can't help but think of this video when I read the title to your post.
    http://s203.beta.photobucket.com/use...G0221.jpg.html

    Honey badger don't care!

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Andrew - you wrote "3 of my 5 yards now have electric fences powered by solar energizers"

    Do you keep your solar energizers out all winter or do you store them for the winter after the bears go into hibernation?

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthia View Post
    Andrew - you wrote "3 of my 5 yards now have electric fences powered by solar energizers"

    Do you keep your solar energizers out all winter or do you store them for the winter after the bears go into hibernation?
    In some parts of MA. BEARS DO NOT hibernation....
    One is Northampton MA.




    BEE HAPPY Jim 134
    Last edited by Jim 134; 12-02-2012 at 01:44 PM.
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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    darn deer hunters... lol

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthia View Post
    Andrew - you wrote "3 of my 5 yards now have electric fences powered by solar energizers"

    Do you keep your solar energizers out all winter or do you store them for the winter after the bears go into hibernation?
    Out all winter - and as of now with no snow on the ground all are operating as they should. They will short out once we accumulate some snow but once the snow has gone they start working normally again. I've got a Parkmak Magnum 12 energizer going into its third winter with the original battery. (Though I purchased a replacement this summer but the unit hasn't needed it yet) Forget the 6 volt units - if you need to go solar get a 12 volt unit. The fence needs to pack enough of a punch to convince the bear that there are easier forage opportunities outside the fence. Don't skimp on the energizer - get the best unit you can afford.
    Master Beekeeper (EAS) and Master Gardener (U Maine CE) www.beeberrywoods.com

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim 134 View Post
    In some parts of MA. BEARS DO NOT hibernation....
    One is Northampton MA.
    I'm sorry to hear that. I grew up outside of Boston and there is much more wildlife (deer, beaver) there now than there was when I was growing up.

    Sheep fence also serves to keep skunks, racoons and other small predators away from the hives. You'll still need your mouse guards though.
    Master Beekeeper (EAS) and Master Gardener (U Maine CE) www.beeberrywoods.com

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    I think the deer hunters did it on purpose because they knew you had bees, so they got on their quads and pushed ol' Winnie the Pooh right towards your hive.

    That's like saying a spoon made Rosie O'Donnel fat.
    Coyote Creek Bees

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Hello and Thanks to everyone for your help. My hive that the bear beat up was surrounded by four foot high sheep fence, and then inside of that was an electric fence, but the charger must have been weak. We have had bears before but they have never gotten inside the fencing. Today, I put a bag of sugar in a super on top of the hive and I will just hope that they survive the winter. Thanks again. Sue

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    Your post put a smile on my face, Thanks.

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    Default Re: Honeybear did not care

    I'll never trust an electric fence again, and guns only work if you are there to hold them.

    My solution:

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...arly-completed

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