I was given an old hive that hadn't been managed for 15-20 years. It was sitting on two deep bodies. I didn't even try to manipulate the frames because they were stuck together. What I did was to get the two bodies apart and give each their own bottom and an empty mediem super with foundation ontop. One hive had the queen and the other made they're own and built up. I hope to get the old body And frames out this spring and continue to grow the collonies.