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  1. #1
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    Default How old is too old for Honey?

    I have this 20 gal barrel of old dark tulip popular honey that must be 25 years old. The barrel was coated with some kind of paint/teflon coating and has likely been crystalized for a long long time. When it was put up is was strong tasting and I didn't have a market for it so I just forgot about it. I plan to heat it up in a bigger barrel full of water and place a couple of bricks in the bottom of the water barrel and heat it up and liquify the stuff. Plan to re-filter the stuff for the paint chips (lead?) if any look like they came off the sides) and see if it would be fit to feed back to my current bees. I know where this honey came from and don't expect any foulbrood issues but maybe dysentery if feed too much at a time in cold weather . Worth the trouble or any other use?

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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    The age of the honey doesn't bother me (as long as it hasn't fermented). However, the paint chips are a cause for concern. If the paint chips are indeed lead, you could be poisoning your bees and potentially introducing lead into the honey stores that you intend to rob later.

    It might be worth finding out exactly what paint/coating was on the inside of the barrel before making a decision.
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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    Age does not make a difference.
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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    There is some capped honey that has been found by archeologists that is thousands of years old. Presumeably still good.
    Also, you can purchase a lead test kit pretty cheap at any big box store.

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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    I would suggest if you do feed some of this honey back to do so in the early fall to give them plenty of time to cure it. Do not feed it anytime late in the spring or you may well have it show up in your new crop honey.
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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    A lead test is fairly cheap and only takes a day or two for the results to come back.
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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    They have found honey in the pyramids they claim was good. I have tasted honey last year a friend harvested in the 70's that was ok except the taste was strong. My concern would be contamination from the storage container.

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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    Like Mr. Lyon says, feed it back late winter and early spring. I doubt that the bees will eat any paint chips and if they are just eating it and not stoing it, I can't see much of a problem. Of course using it could cause a meteor shower and exacerbate Global Warming or worse bring on an ice age or cause shingles in 3 out of 7 women who eat turnip greens. SO many things to worry about about when you have too much time. Personally I would invert the barrel in my bee yard now so it doesn't get water in it and let the bees rob it out on nice days. If they can fly enough to get it, the solids won't be an issue anyway. If you have been beekeeping that long, you don't need your hand held anyway.

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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    I'm pretty sure it's not common paint but telfon coating but still I don't want that stuff in the feedback bottles. I'll refilter the stuff while it's still hot and use in Feb.

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    Default Re: How old is too old for Honey?

    Quote Originally Posted by UTvolshype View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's not common paint but telfon coating but still I don't want that stuff in the feedback bottles. I'll refilter the stuff while it's still hot and use in Feb.
    Teflon has been deemed carcinogenic in some areas at some levels. It is the fumes from overheating the teflon coated pans, not the material itself.

    http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerc...oic-acid--pfoa



    http://www.plastechcoatings.com/tefl...nceptions.html

    But my motto, when it doubt, toss it out. Why risk damage to your hives?

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