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    Default Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    In the past I have cut Honey Super Cell in half and mounted the comb in medium frames, and I'm now considering doing the same with deep pf- frames/foundation. Except the frames will be "narrow" frames.

    I've thought the gap at the bottom of the frame can be used as the bees wish...

    Any thoughts?

    I'm trying to save some money and have some descent narrow, small cell frames...
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    What gap are you talking about?
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sfisher View Post
    What gap are you talking about?
    I will be cutting the frame off of the small cell foundation. Then I will cut the plastic foundation in half, horizontally. Mounting those pieces in medium frames will leave an area without foundation... The bees can continue to draw out small cell or drone comb.
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    The pf frames are already a bit narrow to start. They are also pretty cheap. Unless you have an issue like shb that could hide in the hollow bits of the pf frames, I would save myself some work and just use the pf frames as is.

    You can also use foundationless frames or foundation trimmed to allow for free drone rearing.

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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Got it, all I read is that you cut HSC in half, I didnt pay attention to your wording. Sounds like a perfectly good idea to me. Did you do the math on how much empty space it will leave at the bottom?
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramona View Post
    The pf frames are already a bit narrow to start. They are also pretty cheap. Unless you have an issue like shb that could hide in the hollow bits of the pf frames, I would save myself some work and just use the pf frames as is.
    I want to continue with the conversion to narrow frames... I would also like to reduce the amount of bridge comb that I see with the pf frames. AND... we are seeinf shb in our area.
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    SHB love all the little hiding places in the PF frames. If you have shb I would put them in wood, otherwise your bees will be fighting a loosing battle trying to corral the shb. It will also take care of the brace comb, by putting them in wood. If you have wedge top frames all you have to do is cut the PFs out and put them in. If you have groove top frames, you have to cut down the embossed honeycombs on the frames, to get them to fit in the groove. If your foundation is not going all the way to the bottom, then the bottom bar type wont matter. There are a few threads on here to tell you the dimension to cut the top bar down to, for narrow frames. Steve
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    AND... we are seeinf shb in our area.
    Enuf to where they are causing problems?
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Enuf to where they are causing problems?
    No, there's not "enuf" to cause problems. I will continue to use pf-120 frames in supers.
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    They don't make that stuff to fit medium supers?

    'nuf said.
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    They don't make that stuff to fit medium supers?

    'nuf said.
    What do you want to know?
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    You are cutting down these frames to fit into shorter boxes, right? I thought maybe the frames were made shorter to fit shorter boxes. That's all/
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    I am cutting some small cell plastic foundation out of their frames and putting it into wooden frames with narrow endbars for use in my broodnests. By next Fall, all of my eight frame broodnest boxes will have nine frames frames in them.

    I decided against using deeps and cutting them in half... that would have been more "Kia" than Cadillac.
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    Default Re: Cutting down deep PF frames for use in medium wooden frames ?

    Now I get it. Thanks. It's cold here this morning so I am running slow. Thanks for your patience. I hope things work out the way you want them to. I guess others have done so and found the results worthwhile?
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