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    I'm going to start moving the hives in tomorrow. I should have them all in by Wednesday. Long range looks cooling and no threat of snow yet but all that snow out west has gotten me spooked!
    I blocked off the shed windows, chalked my stacking plans on the floor and turned on the fans. This round will bring the year to an end.
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    Good for you for taking the next step. Good on ya. Keep us informed on how it goes.
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    Post some pics of the end product when you're done Ian.. Would love to see the end results..
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    This thread is purely for interest sake,

    I will be more than happy to post pictures of the hives packed away. The way this whole process works still amazes me

    Here is a shot of the wintering room today ready for the hives;

    http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/Ia...69f0b.jpg.html

    Air intake on the left, air exhaust ventilation on the right, both with light traps installed, ceiling fans overhead, all light blocked off, lots of space, lots of space
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    I've been interested in the process myself for a while. Each time I see posts about the wintering inside I can't help but to read it all. So for me pics would bring it all together.
    Thomas Bartram - Since 2013, 43 - 8 F langs, 22 Italian & 21 Russian

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    Default Re: Moving them in

    Ian, Photobucket offers an easy way to show those photos directly in your posts, if you would like to do that. Just look for the Share Links area on the right side of the Photobucket page, and click on the one called "IMG".

    Then come to your Beesource Compose Message window, and 'paste' into the message window where you want the photo to appear. Usually you can do that with a right click menu choice or try the keyboard combination of Control V. This is the result:



    Optional: If you want to see how the photo displays before posting, in the Beesource Compose Message window, click the "Go Advanced" button, then "Preview Post".
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    Chalk lines is a great idea. I have been thinking about tape but chalk is better.

    180 hives left to go for me.

    Nice to get the hives in with out snow on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
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    holy man, I will see if I can make this work! lol



    wow, there you go, thanks Graham!
    here is a pic of my chalk lines to help keep make better use of the winter shed space. Five rows of 192 hives, and room to fit the truck for spring time loading.
    Last edited by Ian; 11-02-2014 at 11:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Martens View Post
    Chalk lines is a great idea. I have been thinking about tape but chalk is better.

    180 hives left to go for me.

    Nice to get the hives in with out snow on the ground.
    how many are you packing away this winter Allen? Im counting better than 900 this winter.
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    Slightly less than 900 and 300 nucs. Had more attrition this summer than I would like do to heavy swarming. Should have lots of young queens for next year lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Martens View Post
    Had more attrition this summer than I would like
    the seasonal battle,
    whats the chances we will encounter a third spring from hell? I'm hoping for one of those Aprils I remember and love.
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    It was snowing in Nova Scotia today , so I have wrapping hives and insulating the tops on my mind I wish I could say that I am getting ready to put them in a wintering building too Ian

    Someday I might get ahead enough to be at your level, for now we are wintering 170 hives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Little View Post

    Someday I might get ahead enough to be at your level, for now we are wintering 170 hives.
    Ben, the only difference between you and I is 10 years.



    notice, some of my equipment is old, make shift and built from salvage.
    Last edited by Ian; 11-03-2014 at 07:42 PM.
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    Default Re: Moving them in

    Ian,
    when do you usually take them back outside again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scituatema View Post
    Ian,
    when do you usually take them back outside again ?
    Usually April

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    the seasonal battle,
    whats the chances we will encounter a third spring from hell? I'm hoping for one of those Aprils I remember and love.
    Can't happen 3 years in a row can it? First week in April would be nice. March can be a bonus or a headache depending on the weather.

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    Ian, how do you keep the weight of snow from destroying your shed roof?

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    .... and while you are discussing building construction, perhaps you could comment on the amount/type of insulation in the walls and ceiling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Quiney WI View Post
    Ian, how do you keep the weight of snow from destroying your shed roof?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rader Sidetrack View Post
    .... and while you are discussing building construction, perhaps you could comment on the amount/type of insulation in the walls and ceiling?
    Truss rafters give me the opportunity to span 50 feet. It has a 4:10 slope, tin and the snow never sticks as our winds usually blows it off anyway. The walls are insulated with 6" of fiberglass insulation, the ceiling has 12" of blow in fiberglass and under the cement floor I have 2" of rigid board foam. Last year with 900 or so hives inside and an idle air flow (the idle is set about as much as table fan would blow on low) the shed held a temp of 5 degrees C through out the winter without any supplemental heat. And last years winter was the coldest winter our area had for over 125 years. It is amazing how much heat is thrown off those bee hives.

    During times of low air flow I have the ceiling fans turned on medium to make sure the air is well mixed to prevent any air pockets from forming. Moisture usually accumulation usually is not a concern as the air coming in is dry and cold but with low air flows C02 and C0 build up can cause air quality problems for the hives. I dont have any monitors for C02 and C0 set up yet but probably would be a good idea. Unlike last year, we typically get mild spells through the winter which would allow a purge of the winter chambers air.

    Some winters it is the opposite. Too warm to cool the shed throughout the mild spells. Because the shed is properly insulated and I have a large air sink in the building right now, I will be adopting Allen's practice of cutting the air flows during the heat of the day though out those mild days to help keep the chamber temp down. Or so I say...
    What I have in the works is incorporating a semi trailer reefer cooler into the wintering chamber which will help keep the temps down as the temps increase. This will cut the late winter stress off the hives dramatically and by keeping them in the boxes.
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    It is amazing how much heat is thrown off those bee hives.

    But I thought bees only heated the cluster! Go ahead slap me.

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