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    Default Can I use baking soda??????

    We made sugar candy frames but they didn't harden. Does anyone know if you can use baking soda to stiffen the sugar? Will it be okay for the bees?

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Bee View Post
    We made sugar candy frames but they didn't harden. Does anyone know if you can use baking soda to stiffen the sugar? Will it be okay for the bees?
    You may need a candy thermometer ...
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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    I agree with BeeCurious. Temperure and time are VERY important making bee candy.

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    I would not use baking soda.
    Im really not that serious

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Scrape it off and continue to boil it the rest of the way. Don't start adding ingredients at random.
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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    If you can't get a thermometer, you can try to gauge it by dropping a little bit of your boiling syrup in cold water. All those sugar stages, soft ball, firm ball, soft crack, hard crack, etc, are named so to describe how they act when you drop some into cold water.

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    I appreciate all the answers. What I really need is whether or not baking soda would be harmful to the bees. I know the temps and candy stages, but I am wanting to do this differently as it sets quicker and would be perfect for using in 'rescue frames'. With the minimum amount of soda used, I am hoping there is no harmful effects but rather benefits by it. Afterall we humans consume it for upset stomach and for baking and other things and I know that sometimes "medications" for humans is the same for animals. As this is a natural product, I am in hopes there are no ill or long term effects to the bees. Any suggestions where to find this info????

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    I'm wondering how baking soda would stiffen your candy....

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Pollen substitute will make it stiffen up pretty quick.
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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    People add ascorbic acid or vinegar to their sugar syrup to make it closer to the same ph of honey...

    If you're interested in the bee's stomachs, I would avoid the baking soda.
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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Quote Originally Posted by cg3 View Post
    Pollen substitute will make it stiffen up pretty quick.
    Nice one cg3.

    One of those instances that makes me realize I'm almost never have the best suggestion As soon as I read it I thought "duh!"

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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Quote Originally Posted by cg3 View Post
    Pollen substitute will make it stiffen up pretty quick.
    If too much acid or corn syrup has been added it will take an enormous amount of sugar or pollen patties to "stiffen" the mixture ...

    We don't know what has been added to the op's "candy".
    Last edited by BeeCurious; 11-19-2012 at 03:31 AM. Reason: typo
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    Default Re: Can I use baking soda??????

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    We don't know what has been added to th op's "candy".
    Good point.
    When I'm making a batch from 10 lbs sugar, I boil it to temp, take it off the heat and stir in a couple of cups of MegaBee and it sets up right away.
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