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  1. #181

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    Barry…I believe that you have stepped onto a different type of treadmill here….the final word treadmill. The dialog will swirl in semantic circles until motion sickness sets in. I have first hand experience. I suggest that you step off before you need a barf bag.
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
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    Very Funny!
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    indeed!
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Great analogy Dan I was a little surprised myself that Barry got suckered into that "semantic treadmill".
    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    The hive gets contaminated from bees bringing in stuff anyway. Maybe Barry needed some exercise and thought the treadmill would help.

  6. #186

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    The hive gets contaminated from bees bringing in stuff anyway.
    Not my bees! The entrance to each of my hives is equipped with a full bee body scanner and contamination sensors. These will be required for all hives soon…..one of those food security things.
    Decontamination units are optional.
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemandan View Post
    I suggest that you step off before you need a barf bag.
    Thanks Dan, I just threw the baton to Oldtimer whether he wanted it or not!
    Regards, Barry

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    good move barry, and thanks for running interference for me!
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim lyon View Post
    Great analogy Dan I was a little surprised myself that Barry got suckered into that "semantic treadmill".
    Yeah, I know, but I just couldn't stand seeing another Aceism go unchallenged as if it was fact. I'm the sucker this time.
    Regards, Barry

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    Yup if you were a fish you would be in the landing net by now but it did provide some entertainment and reenforced some lessons for the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Yeah, I know, but I just couldn't stand seeing another Aceism go unchallenged as if it was fact. I'm the sucker this time.
    The problem came about because you didn't use enough emoticons in your replies to Ace.
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    I see you're late to the party. Made me get involved. Next time, please check the forum every hour!
    Regards, Barry

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    Our local weather forecast for Monday is 80% chance of precipitation.


    So I'll likely be indoors Monday, if it does rain. I'll take a turn at guard duty.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  14. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    please check the forum every hour!
    Sort of reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield in Back to School.
    ‘Waitress…bring us a pitcher of beer every thirty minutes until the first one of us passes out….then bring one every fifteen minutes.’
    I loved that guy!
    (it probably was first every fifteen minutes, then five....but you get the idea)
    Last edited by beemandan; 11-11-2012 at 04:10 PM.
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    Default Re: "treatment treadmill"

    So what if your treatment is a form of energy, and not a chemical. Does it create a "treadmill? It does not leave a residue?

    Crazy Roland

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    Roland are you using the mite zapper? John

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    Roland is selecting for mites which can withstand drone brood scratching.

    Scratching capped drone brood every 14 days is what Roland means by a form of energy.
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    Or radiation for CCD?
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Irradiation could do that I guess. I was just answering the question from knowing what Roland does.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    So Ace. If you bought a hive that had been treated with Formic Acid 6 months ago, how would chemical contamination prevent you attempting chemical free beekeeping?
    I am not a chemist but I do know that when high concentrations of a chemical are used the chemical combines with other components that may remain. Yes the formic acid may evaporate but what did it leave behind? Do you have proof that there are no residuals? I realize that formic acid may be a soft chemical by itself and could possible be used with out long lasting effects in the equipment but is there a beekeeper who treats only using formic acid? I doubt it. It is like saying I smoke but but I don't inhale.
    Brian Cardinal
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