Have access to 100 deeps with frames; need your thoughts

[sqkcrk]

Favorite quote of the day.

I see you are encapsulated by Acebird's werds.

[cg3]

Yes, I find them... captivating.

[Steves1967]

Aside from foul brood I am very interested in the paraffin dip for weatherizing equipment, does it work well and is there a reasonable source for paraffin and microcrystalline wax?

[squarepeg]

i believe this is mike bush's method of choice. more feasable if several (a club) go in together as a group.

[Jim 134]

Aside from foul brood I am very interested in the paraffin dip for weatherizing equipment, does it work well and is there a reasonable source for paraffin and microcrystalline wax?

http://www.bushfarms.com/beesdipping.htm

2 parts beeswax (you can use paraffin) and 1 part gum rosin.





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[Rader Sidetrack]

Assuming the wax penetration is deep enough the spores are still captivated.

Favorite quote of the day.

I am captivated by this whole discussion!

captivated past participle, past tense of cap·ti·vate

Verb:

Attract and hold the interest and attention of; charm.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/captivated

I don't know why I try to educate you, sometimes I think it can't be done.

This is what happened to this thread. Ace put on his scientist hat and decided to educate us.

This to me doesn't make scientific sense.

[Jim 134]

Acebird....

Are you still using lead paint on your hive




BEE HAPPY Jim 134

[squarepeg]

rader, what's the point? forgive me for saying so, but if are you trying to make yourself look good by making somebody else look bad, it's not working.

[Acebird]

Sorry Brian, I thought you wrote that too and shook my head when I read it.

There is obviously a joke here but I don't get it.

Yes Jim I did say that. Are we thinking that not being able to guarantee sterilization is the same as not killing? They are not.

Oh, I see it now it is the word "captivated". Yup, you are right Mark. Joke is on me.

[Steves1967]

Thank you for the link Jim

[JRG13]

Ace,

Irradiation is pretty absolute. 3/4" wooden ware isn't going to stop gama irradiation from penetrating everything. It is why it's effective. Not sure where you could get it done though and I imagine it isn't cheap.

[Acebird]

How about the nails,staples, metal brackets, handles, rails, process malfunctions etc. and human error? Yes very reliable but not absolute. Mistakes do happen and I am speaking of medical products not bee equipment.

[Jim 134]

Ace,

Irradiation is pretty absolute. 3/4" wooden ware isn't going to stop gama irradiation from penetrating everything. It is why it's effective. Not sure where you could get it done though and I imagine it isn't cheap.

For me I will Irradiation about 60 Mi one way and about $15.00 a box.

http://www.isomedix.com/Gamma/Locations.html

I do not know if this is the only Co. in the USA that dose this or not


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[Acebird]

For me I will Irradiation about 60 Mi one way and about $15.00 a box.

Is the 15 covering shipping and packing or just the irradiation fees?

[westernbeekeeper]

My boss sterlizes and preserves his boxes by boiling them in linseed oil and wax for 1 hour.

[squarepeg]

i think you might have more confidence with this method that the scorching. maybe if you asked him nicely....

[westernbeekeeper]

i think you might have more confidence with this method that the scorching. maybe if you asked him nicely....

I have asked him, quite nicely in fact, but he figures that he would charge me $15-$20 per box after factoring in the oil, wax, propane, and labor. I can scorch for a lot cheaper than that, and I'm willing to risk it. I have also had assumed success doing it (scorching) in the past already, seeing I have bought smaller quantities of unused boxes from unknown sources, scorched them, and they've been in use a year or two and still are disease-free.

[squarepeg]

yep, much more cost efficient to scorch. i did a couple this year with the 'flame thrower'.

[snl]

he figures that he would charge me $15-$20 per box after factoring in the oil, wax, propane, and labor. I can scorch for a lot cheaper than that,

You can buy NEW for cheaper than that! Some boss.....

[Acebird]

I have asked him, quite nicely in fact, but he figures that he would charge me $15-$20 per box after factoring in the oil, wax, propane, and labor.

Sounds reasonable but if you are willing to take a chance why do anything?