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  1. #1
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    Default Troubled first hive questions

    I started a hive via swarm back in June. Things initially started going along well but early on I found swarm/supercedure cells. I figured they knew best so I just left them. Then, I found more... Patients I though... They now best. I added a super in August but they didn't touch it, even though they had their brood box mostly filled (80-90%).

    I September there was little to no brood so I got a little bit worried. Now, over the last couple weeks I started to get a TON of drone cells, basically all my cells were drones, and most cells had between 1-6 eggs, all in the bottom of the cells, not the cell walls. My first though was a laying worker but I found the queen 2 weeks ago and then again today. She was running around the place like an idiot and the other bees just ignored her. My thought is she could be virgin, but if so, she's been this way for a few weeks even though it is plenty warm enough for her to make her flight and I have no shortage of drones.

    I have a new colony I started about 3 weeks ago via a fall swarm and they are going gang busters so I stole a barely drawn out comb (about a half a hand size) with eggs, figuring I will give the old hive one more chance to build a new queen, which, I think I'd prefer anyways as this new colony seems a lot more put together and organized.

    A few other observations in the old (troubled) hive. About 5 SHB on the underside of the cover, I didn't see any more inside. I removed the super a few weeks ago and they are now at a single large box.

    On the new hive there was one bee hatching (very cool) but there were a few more cells that were opened and I could look inside and see some white heads of bee larvae but they were pretty close to full size. Shouldn't they be capped until they crawl out on their own?

    Thanks everybody for your help!

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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    Sounds like a poorly mated queen perhaps and she's a drone layer.

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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    I dont think that a new queen will fix a laying worker problem. But I thought that a laying worker hive would kill a new queen. You could combine the hives with newspapper, if your hive dosent get straightened out.
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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    Sounds like a poorly mated queen perhaps and she's a drone layer.
    Could fact that I did find a few eggs that were solo in their cells mean that she is getting it together? Otherwise, I guess I'll have to hope they can supersede her with the eggs I installed from the other hive.

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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    Would anybody care to comment on this:

    On the new hive there was one bee hatching (very cool) but there were a few more cells that were opened and I could look inside and see some white heads of bee larvae but they were pretty close to full size. Shouldn't they be capped until they crawl out on their own?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    The new hive could be VSH stock. Did you check for varroa?
    Or maybe the bees just hadn't finished capping the cells yet.

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    Default Re: Troubled first hive questions

    Quote Originally Posted by JD's Bees View Post
    The new hive could be VSH stock. Did you check for varroa?
    Or maybe the bees just hadn't finished capping the cells yet.
    I've not been able to ID any varroa, but I'll check more next time I'm having a look. I did do a quick check yesterday and they queen has started laying properly and the drone brood is subsiding. I think she has it together and things will be OK. That would be great if they were VSH stock, but I got both hives via swarms so who knows what I have. There are commercial hives about 7 miles away so these could have wondered off of those hives I suppose.

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