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    Default Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

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    I posted a thread on insulating and sealing hive tops in the beekeeping section. But this is a new product I tried so I am posting it here as well.. Hope you get some info. from it. Here is the link to the other thread:

    http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...ting-hive-tops


    One last method of sealing hive tops..This one is new to me and the jury is still out on the finish and durability.
    Here is the product:




    My migratory covers are not very watertight. I needed something different to seal them..paint was just not cutting it. Here is a typical cover I get from Mann Lake.



    You can see why this product would appeal to me. It says it fills in cracks, etc etc. So heres the results.
    I had to apply at least three coats to fill in this crack. It looks good here wet, but when it dried it shrunk and a third coat was necessary. So much for less labor intensive than other methods:


    wet texture almost dissappears when dry.


    Here it is when dried. (These were new plywood tops):


    I had hoped this product would also seal the exposed edge of the plywood top, but it also took time to work the product into the cracks. It has the consistancy of thin cement. You'd be better off filling the cracks with putty or silicone before painting.

    So a third coat will be applied and it should have the texture they promised two coats would provide.
    I do like it, if it is really as durable as they say. But Not too sure I would make any more of them. One gallon put two coats on 12 tops. It costs about the same per gallon as paint and is latex which means easy clean up.

    For my next batch of telescoping tops, I will go back to my old method of staining or burning, sealing the exposed plywood edge with clear silocone and two coats of spar urethane.
    It holds up well in my wet climate and is actually less time consuming than the above product.



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    Last edited by Lauri; 10-27-2012 at 05:49 PM.

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    those tops look real good . Iuse the spray on rubber you see on tV I only need one coat.

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    John, I bought some of that I think-spray on rubber sealer? Have not used it yet, Might be a good top coat for these. Thanks

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    What's wrong with metal? Trim coil tops take me about 5 min and it even comes in colors.
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    What is a trim coil top?
    Metal is probably the best, you are right about that.
    I was just hoping to find a product I could just paint the tops with.

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Use Advantec for your tops, and you will not have to paint or cover with metal.

    cchoganjr

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Trim coil stock (there's probably a more proper name for it) is metal that is sold in 2'x50' rolls that is used by roofers and siders. It is similar to the metal that is commonly used on telescoping covers but heavier. They sell it in any building materials store. White on one side, colored on the other. To bend the edges, I have a brake (metal bender) but good results can be made by clamping between 2 boards or even just pounding it around the corners with a rubber mallet.
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Advantec is a very good product, too.
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    LOL, OK, What is Advantec?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    It's a plywood-like product that comes in 4x8 sheets. Very weather resistant and stable. Ask at Lowes or Home Depot. It might not have the "look" you want, though
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    I'll go tomorrow and get some! Hee hee, my husband thanks you I'm sure

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    It's good stuff. Heavy, easy to cut, costs about the same as 3/4 plywood. Lasts unprotected in the weather for years
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Aluminum flashing or coil stock as noted will last forever, at least longer than I'll be around anyway. If the rest of the cover is well painted, no deterioration is likely.

    Not as pretty, certainly, but no paint like material is going to last anywhere near as long a sheet aluminum.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    That rubber mallet is good info. I needed it.
    Julysun elevation 23 feet. 4 Hives, 2 years.

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    >To bend the edges, I have a brake (metal bender)

    How do you make nice straight cuts?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Has anyone tried mobile home roofing paint?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post

    How do you make nice straight cuts?
    Score with utility knife, then flex. BTW, beebee trees did well this year
    Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    > It's plywood-like product that comes in 4x8 sheets. Very weather resistant and stable.

    Advantech is actually more related to OSB (oriented strand board) than to plywood. It is essentially OSB, (flakes of wood pressed together with resin under high pressure and temperatures to form panels) but Advantech is manufactured with more resin than standard OSB. The additional resin makes it more stable in wet conditions than OSB, and possibly plywood.

    http://www.advantechperforms.com/product-lineup/
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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Has anyone tried mobile home roofing paint?
    Really?, now you want to give your hives a trailer park look too? Isn't the WW1 bomb crate look bad enough?
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    Default Re: Restore Liquid Armor product for hive tops

    odfrank... I have a young man bend mine for me, but, he says to cut it straight, just stick it in the brake, score with a utility knife a couple of times, bend in opposite direction and you have a nice straight cut.

    BTW..Finished 2 more square hives today.

    cchogan

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