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  1. #1
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    Default Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    Hello
    This is my first post and I am not a beekeeper yet but am taking the 8 week class my county offers this winter and hope to start in 2013 :-)

    Over the summer I bought an old Langstroth located here:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/8654721...7631858715531/

    I think I can still use it with minimal repairs.
    I have a few questions. I understand how the deep brooding supers work. However the small honey suppers have a different kind of frame, like a three sided upside down frame. Or do I need new frames for those small supers?.

    Also the telescoping cover has a screen inside that i will probably replace. Is this for pests?

    I will need to make an inner cover but is there a way to make a queen excluder? I was thinking maybe a frame with hardware cloth or something.

    I was also thinking about splitting this Langstroh up into possible two hives and make another telescoping cover and two medium supers to put on top of one each of the large brooding supers.

    Your opinions and suggestions would be greatly appreciated and excuse me if I am confused with the terminology.

    Thanks again

    Honeycrab

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    It is a very good idea to take the class.Those supers you have are for the old basswood comb honey sections.Take all that out and throw it as far as you can.Comb section honey isn't for beginners.Replace with shallow frames.Toss the screen inside the inner cover as well.The brood boxes and hive bodies seem ok from what I can see from the pictures.The bottom board is toast so make or buy a new one.I make my inner covers from plywood with a 1/4/ to 3/8 ths rim top and bottom.Drill a hole the size of a mason jar lid and you can use that inner for a feeder as well.
    Finally,before you get bees read all you can about mites and their treatment as well as small hive beetles.After you learn about these pests then you can decide whether to treat or not.
    Splitting as you suggest is perfectly alright.I am assuming you mean equipment to set up for two hives next spring, and not bees, since you have no bees yet.

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    I too am a fairly new beekeeper and started with used equipment. Body and frames look like they are decent shape a scraper and some paint on the outside maybe. On my used equipment I accually had a swarm move into my hive far before I was ready for them... the equipment I got was free because they where wax moth damaged and the guy I got them from didn't want to bother with it. All I did was scrape the frames and rinse with plain water.

    Looks like the honey supers are setup for comb honey production... Great if you want to try it. I am forgoing comb honey for a while as it seems like a bit more then I'm willing to take on currently. If you are of a simular mind you'll need to get frames for the supers.

    There are plans on this forum for making excluders and can be done rather easy.

    As for splitting into 2 hives... I highly suggest doing so. However, personally, I would stick with the same size boxes for brood. Interchangable brood frames have been a blessing to me in the past. (I'm currently working toward going to all mediums, for brood and honey)

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    You dont have to throw the comb honey super out. You can order shallow or medium frames for it just get a measurment of how deep it is then add to the bottom of the super what you need to turn it into that size.

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    I would burn all and go with a fresh start.

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by RAK View Post
    I would burn all and go with a fresh start.
    A wise man with good advice.

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    I also started sooner then I wanted to, a friend of my son had hives that had been stored in an old shed for about 5 yrs .I bought them, took them home and set some up. they were really nasty! before I got them cleaned up there were scout bees coming in and in a few days a sworm came and in 20 minutes they were in the hive and i became a beekeeper and love every minute of it
    Learned all I know from books and this fourm...... thanks guys and gals

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by RAK View Post
    I would burn all and go with a fresh start.
    What RAK said.

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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    Rak does have a good idea, but I would go with Sergie, dont throw that old equipment away thow. It could become a good conversation pieces, some day when you have over 700 hives! To show what started it all.
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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by RAK View Post
    I would burn all and go with a fresh start.

    Hope you do not find AFB



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    Default Re: Just bought an old langstroth your opinion appreciated

    I was at the antique flea market in Brimfield Massachusetts last spring and was astonished to find old toasty beehives selling for about $125 as yard decorations. I talked to the people selling them and said you could buy new hives for what they were asking so as a beekeeper they really didnt have any appeal. I also noted that as yard decoration that people were paying for the "patina" and that I didnt doubt that they would sell. Later in the day I noticed a woman carting the hives to her car and she was very happy to have found them. I joked with my wife that I should bring up half my equipment every year and sell it as yard art and use the proceeds to buy new equipment. I never turn down anything thats free if it has any value. Craigslist has made me plenty of money off of other peoples discarded junk.

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