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    Default Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Is it possible to attach a queen to a string with super glue send her up in the air with a balloon and let the drones mate with her? You could use a crappie jig and send several up at once.

    Saw a video a while back where someone put q pheromones in a net sent it up with a balloon, he catches several drone in a drone congregation area.
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Watch the Kroeneger video at the National Honey Show site.

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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Seems like a lot of effort, but probably possible. The only thing is, I think the queen needs to be in a certain position for good mating, not sure if dangling from a string would work.

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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Watch the Kroeneger video at the National Honey Show site.
    Do you have a link.
    The one out of UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    Seems like a lot of effort, but probably possible. The only thing is, I think the queen needs to be in a certain position for good mating, not sure if dangling from a string would work.
    Not sure it would work either the queen position could be adjusted if needed, attached to toothpick or such. On a string she may also be able to fly in circles (like the pet bumble bee video). It would be take some set up but so does artificial insemination. You also wouldn't need mating nucs.

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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    You could tow her on a thread behind a drone, then reel her in to a cannister for the return flight to avoid loss to swifts and dragon flies.

    This could escalate to the point where you take up instrumental insemination because it's easier, and then you get to choose the drones too.

    Give me any idea, I'll complicate it for you.
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Yea... I... why?

    Think you'd lose less queens on mating flights this way?

    Or just have more control on where they go to mate? (Ie, have a limited location that you can saturate with drones that you want, instead of having isolated island somewhere)

    ...sounds like a lot of work to me.
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    can I come watch
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Yes, the one from U.K. Pics of catching drones and finding DCAs. Everyone with questions on mating queens and drones and DCAs shouleld watch their presentations. Then get their book. Great read.

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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Have you identified your close DCAs?
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Spring is almost here. Raise a few queen cells and go try it. You might be on to a way to MAKE an isolated queen yard almost anywhere you want. Just bring the drone colonies with you.

    Just FYI, I sat in a gulch watching maybe a hundred drone comets from as little as 4 or 5 feet away last year. Pretty sure I even saw one drone get a queen when the drone comet broke up right in front of me. They do not need to be very high up in the air - a pole would work. These were at maybe 10 feet above ground, but on a slope so I was closer. Just above the coyote brush.

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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    >Think you'd lose less queens on mating flights this way?

    Yes, possible. Might be very quick no wait for mated queens, send her up, 15 minutes later she mated with a bunch of drones. If it works possible send four at once.

    >Or just have more control on where they go to mate?

    That too, You could take your queens to isolated locations like Arnot Forest or home of the ankle bitters... with minimal set up.

    >can I come watch

    Yes, as long as you have a beer in your hand

    >Yes, the one from U.K.

    Thank you!

    >Have you identified your close DCAs?

    No, this could be a problem. Would there be enough drones above an apiary?

    Maybe I will give it a try if I have some extra time to mess around. Always seem to have extra queen cells, even had some hatch in my hand last year.

    How long after virgins hatch are they artificial inseminated?

    How many yard up should she fly?

    Use LGO or SC on the balloon, or nothing?

    Any other suggestions?
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerPlanter View Post
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    How long after virgins hatch are they artificial inseminated?
    I was instructed that as soon as 4 days and as late as 13 days post emergence. I shoot for 7 days.
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    Default Re: Is This a Possiable way to Mate Queens?

    >They do not need to be very high up in the air - a pole would work.

    That makes it even easier. I could use my swarm collector pole (telescoping painter pole). Easier to watch too.

    >I shoot for 7 days.

    Thank you!

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