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  1. #1
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    Default amitraz approved for S.D.

    a post from bee-l from randy oliver

    Today, EPA issued a section 18 for amitraz in beehives to South Dakota, who
    was the original requesting state. The section 18 use pattern is for food
    use so honey harvest is allowed. It closely resembles ... the
    *proposed* section
    3 label for Apivar Strips, which is currently under EPA review.

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Are you saying that they've cleared the use of Amitraz while honey supers are on then?

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    What is being said is that a small group of beekeepers from the American Honey Producers have worked thier tails off for the past 3 years mainly at there own expense to move the wheels of government, and they have succedded so far. I applaud the work group and there efforts.
    Larry Pender,Jubilee HoneyBee Company,Camarillo, CA

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markt View Post
    Are you saying that they've cleared the use of Amitraz while honey supers are on then?
    Pretty sure they are saying it is for use on hives which produce surplus honey but not to be used while the honey supers are actually on the hives.
    "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe."- Andy Rooney

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    >>American Honey Producers have worked thier tails off for the past 3 years mainly at there own expense to move the wheels of government

    its these working groups that get things done while everyone else watches
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
    www.stepplerfarms.com

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    i didn't know amitraz was illegal in SD hahaha. just kidding!!!
    Greg Stahlman; Stahlman Apiaries Inc.

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markt View Post
    Are you saying that they've cleared the use of Amitraz while honey supers are on then?
    No, it means that there will no longer be a zero tolerance level for amitraz in honey.

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    I thought amitraz has such a short life it was undetectable in honey as amitraz?

    Does that mean we will start seeing taktic on the market in the US again?

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Taktic is a different concentration and delivery system. It is "off label" use and can get you fined and your honey confiscated. Please do not mess it up for all of us.
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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Amitraz or Apivar, which contains amitraz? Please clarify.

    Has anyone read the CAP Article in Bee Culture this month? It's all about Amitraz, fluvalenate, and coumophos. What do you think?
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    You are making assumptions and pointing fingers. Reminds me a bit of the Salem Witch hunts. I was simply asking a question.

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMAC View Post
    I thought amitraz has such a short life it was undetectable in honey as amitraz?
    Yes Brian, that's what it says in the CAP Article in Bee Culture. But what it breaks down into is detectable and can be found.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    If I have time I will read the article. So that is also what I heard that amitraz breaks down into others and can be found, just not in the form of Amitraz.

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    we have used Apivar for a bunch of years here in Canada. It has worked very well for us to date. Apivar is Amitraz impregnated strips. It has to be used so that it does not contaminate your honey, just as any other labeled treatment.
    Ian Steppler >> Canadian Beekeeper's Blog
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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    What is this bee-l???

    In what form will this amitraz be used?

    Apivar strips?
    talk to me

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    bee-L is a discussion forum similar to beesource.com. Google it for more info.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Benstung, apivar is the name of the strips which deliver the amatraz product used to control varroa. We have used in Canada for a few years now.
    Still the same thing applies. If you use it in the spring, use something else in the fall to prevent resistance

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericasBeekeeper View Post
    Taktic is a different concentration and delivery system. It is "off label" use and can get you fined and your honey confiscated. Please do not mess it up for all of us.
    I think your shouting to the wind. There are plenty of commercial beekeepers that use it. Evidently the risk of fine and confiscation isn't very high.
    Regards, Barry

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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Evidently the risk of fine and confiscation isn't very high.
    I think some folks feel, confiscating emty equipment is worse.
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    Default Re: amitraz approved for S.D.

    I'm sure everyone has their reasons for using it. Just trying to point out that AB's statement is a bit of "the train has already left the station."
    Regards, Barry

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