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  1. #1
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    Question Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    I am pretty strong for a woman, but at 55 with budding arthritis in one thumb, I found the 10 frame large Langstroth supers too heavy to easily move around, and did notice that the bees were very reluctant to use the outside frames anyway.

    So I am thinking of making all my new hives from here on in 8 frame medium box based. I have one top bar hive to try out for 2013 as well.

    But I would like to hear back from beekeepers who have made the switch to 8 frame medium. How is that going for you? Tips/tricks/advice???

    Regards,
    Janet

  2. #2
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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    Not a tip or trick, just an observation. They are ofc lighter but to get to the same size as a double deep you are going to need 4 boxes. So, price is somewhat higher and you will have 32 frames to go thru instead of 20 to inspect the whole broodnest area. Also your supers will be higher off the ground as the bottom of the first super will be 26.5 incehs plus however high your stand is off the ground.

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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    Quote Originally Posted by oblib View Post
    Not a tip or trick, just an observation. They are ofc lighter but to get to the same size as a double deep you are going to need 4 boxes. So, price is somewhat higher and you will have 32 frames to go thru instead of 20 to inspect the whole broodnest area. Also your supers will be higher off the ground as the bottom of the first super will be 26.5 incehs plus however high your stand is off the ground.
    I'm not a big time beekeeper, but I switched to 8 frame mediums. I have around 45 hives at the moment.

    Your primary concerns with mediums will be an increased component cost, incompatibility with standard purchased nucs, and overall height of a full hive.

    Your concern with 8 frame vs 10 frame is compatibility with new baubles, but 8 frames are getting pretty popular. What I mean by bauble is the new excluders, feeders, hive stands, etc...

    When I started, I did the 1 deep and 1 medium ten frame setup on my hives. This worked fine, but I found it annoying that all of my frames weren't the same size. So, I switched to 10 frame mediums and phased out my deep frames. I found this much more to my liking, since any frame could go in any hive. Additionally, I'm a young guy in decent shape. I did not enjoy moving a full deep box.

    As you stated in your originally post, I noticed that the bees would not use the 1 and 10 frame very often. However, in my hives placed in the shade. I noticed that the bees would build on the side closest to the southern exposure and leave frames 9 and 10 open. Now that I have the majority of my hives in 8 frames, I notice that the bees tend to fill the entire space.

    I would caution that you need to watch your bees more often or provide them space to grow. I'm in the south and I don't give my bees too much space due to SHB and I've had a bit more queen cells that I did previously. This could be in my head or the bees I'm running. I tend to watch my bees every 7-9 days during the spring. If I see more than 4-6 frames pulled in the top box. I add another super.

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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    I saw the benefits of 8 frame medium equipment after I had started with 10 frame. It was important enough to me to cut down all my hives to 8's. They're much easier to move and handle, I can transport more hives at a time, I can move frames up and down the hive boxes to keep the brood nest open and my bees just seem to do better with a slightly smaller box.
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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    MeridithI find 3 8-frame boxes are approximate to 2 deeps. It is great to be able to lift the full boxes and still beable to lift my patients the next day!

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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    I have not made the switch because I started with 8 frame mediums. But I have worked 10 frame deeps before, and Im glad I started the way I did. Do it you wont regret it. The cost difference is not that big of a deal. And I would rather work with a medium frame instead of a deep frame, they can also be a little ackward when you are trying to flip them around without smashing bees and getting stung. It just makes working your hives alot more pleasant. We are backyard beekeepers, not comercial, no need to make a job out of it if you dont have to. Steve
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    Default Re: Wanted: Reviews and feedback on 8 frame medium super setup!

    You could use 10 frame supers, but just go to 8 frames once the foundation is drawn. Also, on deeps, maybe try ML's 1.5 gallon feeders. They take the place of 2 frames and you are rarely moving deeps when the feeders are full (thus just handling 8 frames)

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