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  1. #1
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    Default Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    Is there a moral code about setting bait hives near another beeks yard but has landowner permission (diffrent landowner) beek a real donkey. Is all fair got away,yours when u catch it.or is ojust messed up. Im ganna run 3 traplines through town but i dont really want anybody to think im singling there swarms out. But the two i disfavor shaft new bee havers all year there the kind that messes up buy local tell me what u think

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    im new to this whole bee thing, so I'm not completly up to speed on etiquette. IMO I would say that if you have permission to put a swarm trap on someone's property, you can't controll who's bees go into it.

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    I will gladly give your the address of all of Charlie B's and BayHighlandsBees apiary sites. There is definitely nothing immoral about setting a big trapline around these two guys sites.

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    My opinion...

    Beekeeping INCLUDES SWARM MANAGEMENT. If you have permission to trap BEES on a particular piece of land and it's situated near an apiary, as long as you stay on the land you have permission for, what's the problem? The beekeeper tending the apiary should do his/her best to maintain their hives and makes splits if they want more stock. After all, trapping a swarm isn't like you're going into their hives, pulling frames and making splits. If anything, you're doing a public service by providing potential habitat that a swarm sees as favorable and saving that poor person down the road time and money from having to hire someone to do a removal or cutout.

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    You can't poach something that doesn't belong to anyone. As long as you aren't on someone's property w/out their permission you aren't taking anything which really belongs to someone else. Which doesn't mean the beekeeper where the swarm came from will see it that way.

    I saw a swarm trap across the road from the entrance to one of my yards. My first thought was "You sob." Then I thought, "Good for you. Good luck. Someone aught to get the bees I lose should any of my hives swarm."

    If someone objects they should set up their own traps.
    Mark Berninghausen "Ships at a distance have every man's wish on board." Zora Neale Hurston

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    It is better for beekeeping if bees that swarm end up in another beekeepers hive instead of in the siding of an occupied house.

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    I wouldn't put a wall of swarm traps on another beeks property line, but if catch one of there swarms it is fair game. Otherwise Odfrank would be bee-less.

    I think that you are better off putting swarm traps in good places for bees to scout versus near another apiary. If the beek is on top of his hives they may not have many swarms, but if you have your bait hives in good locations for bees you may get feral swarms or swarms from hives that you didn't know existed.

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    Default Re: Poaching swarms by traping/ beek respectiful

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Quiney WI View Post
    It is better for beekeeping if bees that swarm end up in another beekeepers hive instead of in the siding of an occupied house.
    Good point. I've always thought there should be no big deal in placing swarm traps near another guy's yard. They're not actually a 'trap', and they don't cause bees to swarm, so what's the harm? If the bees aren't swarming, then a trap is not going to make a difference. And as you say, better in the hands of a beekeeper, than on the property of someone with an allergy - or a tendency to scream for new legislation banning beekeeping.


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