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    Default Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Saw bees on stand from afar, approached to check it out, dead/dying bees everywhere on bottom board, in front of hive on ground etc. it's a total loss, was a booming over wintered hive. Hive 30' away not affected

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Wow! Sorry for the loss. You have any idea where they got it from? Just a brutal site.

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    How awful. I'm sorry you lost the entire hive. Could someone have tampered with it? I'd be watching your other hive(s).
    On my 5th year with bees, 2 hives.

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Did the individual bees show any acute signs of poisoning? I note that there are no stores visible in the pics and there are a lot of bees head down in empty cells.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Wow. That's terrible. How did it happen?

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    I have to question your diagnosis.
    holes in brood caps, no stores, head in bees?

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    So sorry to see such a loss.

    I am with clyderoad. The photo of the frame doesn't look like a hive that died from pesticides.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    I agree that it doesn't look like the cause of death was from pesticides. I would check your other hive to make sure it has plenty stores.

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Thanks for replies, on further talk with another beekeeper, I think it probably was a starve out - shocking to me and horrible to bees. I've never seen a starve out before, the crash was so fast, from boom to bust in a day. It's been a rough spring bees-wise here, I will check all hives today

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    I am sorry for your loss. I am concerned because I have 3 big populous hives that I thought I didn't have to be concerned about after May 1 as far as feeding. We've got dandelions, blueberries etc. pollen is pouring in and your temps have been similar to mine. I was more focused on swarming and not harming the queen when in the middle of three deeps. I will be looking closer. I assumed a populous hive would have enough foragers .
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by Mefco View Post
    Thanks for replies, on further talk with another beekeeper, I think it probably was a starve out - shocking to me and horrible to bees. I've never seen a starve out before, the crash was so fast, from boom to bust in a day. It's been a rough spring bees-wise here, I will check all hives today
    I dunno about you, but when I inspect my hives, I will pick up the top deep and set it aside. I'm judging how much feed they need by how much effort it takes to heft the box. If you are not atleast having to breathe like as if you are weightlifting, I don't think there is enough feed, IMO.

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by clyderoad View Post
    I have to question your diagnosis.
    holes in brood caps, no stores, head in bees?
    Me too. Looks like starvation to me.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by Bee Tamer View Post
    I assumed a populous hive would have enough foragers .
    They did. But conditions are not good for a nectar flow to keep them in stores. Just because there are flowers out there doesn't mean they are producing nectar and doesn't mean the bees can get to them even if they are.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    They did. But conditions are not good for a nectar flow to keep them in stores. Just because there are flowers out there doesn't mean they are producing nectar and doesn't mean the bees can get to them even if they are.
    What would cause them to not be able to get to the nectar if it was available and close by?

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Coach, it's cold up here in the Northeast. I loaded 18 pallets of hives on my truck Sunday at 4:00 in the afternoon, using my Bobcat. Didn't need smoker or veil.

    Yesterday I drove them 100 miles, leaving at 4:30 AM and started setting them out in an orchard at 6:30 and again, didn't need veil or smoker.

    Too cold to fly. Can't fly, can't forage. Probably no nectar being produced until warmer anyway.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Coach, it's cold up here in the Northeast. I loaded 18 pallets of hives on my truck Sunday at 4:00 in the afternoon, using my Bobcat. Didn't need smoker or veil.

    Yesterday I drove them 100 miles, leaving at 4:30 AM and started setting them out in an orchard at 6:30 and again, didn't need veil or smoker.

    Too cold to fly. Can't fly, can't forage. Probably no nectar being produced until warmer anyway.
    ayuh. seeing this as well. have had to feed several nucs. Warm this week hopefully they take in some stores. It has been a confusing flow. All signs point to lots of blooms but too cold to get it.
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    If that is what I saw in my hive, I'd say starvation (and kick myself in the rear for letting it happen)
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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    So sorry, mefco! And such a strong hive! The fact that it was so heavily populated probably accelerated its starving out.

    DARN RAIN THIS MONTH. And cold. This is why I put sugar slabs and pollen patties back into my hives last week, just as if it were still winter. They were stuck in the hives for most of, what, 2 weeks? It also could have been robbed out by the neighboring hive, maybe.

    I noticed tonight a lot of the dandelions are turning fuzzy already. This has not been a good dandelion season.

    The bright side is, you don't have to worry whose pesticide it was.

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    I often wonder how many "pesticide kills" are something else

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    Default Re: Sad Day Today, Hive Killed by Pesticide

    Quote Originally Posted by camero7 View Post
    I often wonder how many "pesticide kills" are something else
    Hard to tell in Mass...no one will investigate when they are reported.
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