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    Default Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    BLUF: Those of you that have over wintered nucs, What is the minimum number of frames of bees that you would attempt it with? Also minimum frames of stores? If MP or MB answer I know what size frames they are talking about all others please state size.

    I am still considering combining some of my nucs and would like some input on how small might make it thru a winter. We supposed to have some mid sixties next week to get it done but I doubt I will see seventy again until spring so I need to get it done.

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    I have overwintered with 2 frames of brood and 3 of food before. Also added a candy brick as insurance on the top bars in a second box (which they barely touched). Worked for me. Was my best hive the next season.

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    Thanks Paul but I meant actual live bees when I look down into the nuc. I know it can depend on the race of bee as some can survive with a smaller cluster, just looking for some opinions from those that do it.

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    I winter 3 frame nucs, in deep lang boxes divided into 3 nucs each. They all keep each other warm. The outside 2 nucs will cluster against the divider where the middle one is.

    They go into winter with 2 1/2 combs of honey, just a small clear area for clustering. They go through winter fine with this but have to get another comb of honey in spring after brood rearing starts in earnest but before there's a nectar flow. In this situation carniolans winter smaller and better than italians, which stay too strong and consume excessive honey.

    Winters here are mild, never goes below freezing so it may be different for some other folks with colder winters.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    Oldtimer, is the nuc "full of bees when you start the winter?

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    Not sure about your winter but here in SW New Hampshire we can have anywhere from 30"-200" of snow. I have overwintered nucs with 2 mediums (5 frames honey in top) but usually try to use 3 mediums. This year I have 7 nucs entering winter. My guess is they average out to bees covering 7 frames and 8 frames of honey. Most likely, there will be honey left in the spring. FWIW, I use SBB partially closed, close the bottom entrance and use a full width top entrance. All hives are on a 11" high stand.

    John
    7 yrs, 6 hives, TF, small cell

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    Default Re: Minimum frames to overwinter NUC

    Quote Originally Posted by oblib View Post
    Oldtimer, is the nuc "full of bees when you start the winter?
    No they would eat too much, if the nuc is around 1/2 full works best.

    Should have mentioned, I'll treat if need be and have mites at virtually none as they go into winter, this is a very important factor in their survival, too many mites you can kiss the bees goodbye.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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