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    Default Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    Has anyone ever tried vacuum sealing a super (or maybe just the frames) to control wax moths over the winter? Like in one of those Space Bag things (if they make them big enough)? I'm thinking as an alternative to mothballs (yuck) or PDB. If the moths do hatch, I thought that maybe the lack of oxygen might do them in before they got the chance to do much damage.
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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    Hi Splatt,
    Aren't you also sealing in the moisture?
    Linn
    Last edited by linn; 10-03-2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason: grammer

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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by linn View Post
    Hi Splatt,
    Aren't you also sealing in the moisture?
    Linn
    Good point. Add a reusable moisture absorber? I'm just thinking out loud...

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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    i was thinking about making some bags out of mosquito netting. take them right out of the freezer, close 'em up, and stack them cross ways to each other.
    journaling the growth of a treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    All winter long I put 3 to 4 frame in an upright freezer. After the frames have been in the freezer for 3 or 4 days, I take the frames out and return the frames to the stack. I continue this process until all the frames in the stack have been in the freezer. I store the frames in the garage in supers. I separate the supers with plywood, outer covers or the steel tops of the outer covers. This is a very long process. A friend of mine asked me why I was doing this. I cannot remember how cold or how long the frames need to be in the deep freeze to kill wax moths. We will be having some very cold weather. The suggestion given to me by my friend was to put those supers with the frames outside for a period of time once the temperature drops. I cannot remember how cold or for how long. The deep freeze will come. linn
    Last edited by linn; 10-03-2012 at 11:13 PM. Reason: grammer

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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    Freezing will kill eggs/larvae. Of course. Don't forget that if the combs get exposure to sunlight then the moths won't lay their eggs there. Some people store them outside while not in use.
    As for absorbing moisture in the sealed bag, I would use rice. Silica gel says do not eat on the package. Honey does not.
    Also you could close up the bag, not vacuum seal though, and fill the bag with CO2. This process is used in processing foods to preserve them.

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    Default Re: Vacuum sealing for winter wax moth control?

    I have been freezing my frames for several days and then sealing them in a big ziploc bag I bought from the Dollar Tree. The xxl bag will store 10 small super frames. Once you kill everything off with freezing, sealing in the bag keeps anything out.

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