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  1. #1
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    Sep 2012
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    Anastasia Island, FL, USA
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    Default Feral Beehives a "Pest Control" resposibility?

    I was talking to the Chief

    Bureau of Entomology and Pest Control
    Florida Dept. of Agriculture & Consumer Services

    "I enjoyed talking to you today about the current status of the Limited Certificate which would provide authority for beekeepers to remove bees from a structure. Per your request, I’ve attached the notes taken during the meeting that was held with beekeepers, members of the pest control industry, IFAS Extension Specialists and the Department (Division of AES and DPI) on September 14, 2012.

    I would appreciate input (in the form of written comments) from the St. Johns County Beekeepers Association no later than the middle of next week (earlier if possible).

    Please contact me if you have additional questions."

    The state of Florida is considering the language for this new statute:

    The department shall establish a limited certification category that authorizes beekeepers registered pursuant to s. 586.045, to remove and relocate colonies, as defined in s. 586.02(5), of Apis mellifera, commonly known as Western honey bees, from in and around structures. Beekeepers certified under this section shall be authorized to use mechanical means to remove and relocate Western honey bee colonies. In the event bees become defensive and pose a threat to human or animal health, safety, or welfare during the relocation process, beekeepers certified under this section may use ready-to-use aerosol pesticides containing signal word “caution”, foam or soapy water, pheromone lures and attractants and repellents and glue boards to control the bees.

    The department shall issue a limited certificate to perform colony removals to an applicant who:

    Is registered as a beekeeper under s. 586.045, has maintained registration in good standing under Chapter 586, and can provide documentation of at least one beekeeper inspection by the department within the last 2 years;

    Passes an examination administered by the department with a score of 75% or higher. Each application for examination must be accompanied by an examination fee set by rule of the department, in an amount of not more than $150 or less than $75. The department shall provide appropriate reference materials for the examination; and

    Provides proof of having a certificate of insurance which states that the applicant meets the requirements for minimum financial responsibility for bodily injury and property damage required by s. 482.071(4).

    To be eligible to take the examination described in subsection (3) herein, an applicant must complete a minimum of 8 classroom hours of Africanized honey bee (Apis mellifera scutellata) biology, and behavior, non-chemical and chemical methods of control, techniques for colony removal from structures, personal protection equipment and emergency response training approved by the department and provide sufficient proof of attendance according to criteria established by department rule.



    It goes on to describe the need for Liability insurance 500K and other issues.

    What do you think?

    I do know of beekeeper in Barbados that is the only certified African bee removal expert and after removing the feral hive, takes the honey and releases the bees for continued enjoyment .....now that is job security!!

    Bobby

  2. #2
    Join Date
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    Alachua County, FL, USA
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    Default Re: Feral Beehives a "Pest Control" resposibility?

    There are three options
    1. Do nothing and it will remain illegal to remove feral colonies or bees from structures.
    2. Support the amendment and there will be an option beekeepers designed that we can live with.
    3. Work under a PCO as many do now.
    The liability insurance is required of anyone working on another persons property in Florida.
    The $150, $75 fee is to cover expenses of the training required for the program.
    The requirement to own a hive for a year is to prevent recurrences of "internet experts" that show up with a football helmet and a paper sack to remove a hive adjacent to a school yard. Exageration? no, it made the news in Florida.
    Dr. Bill Kern is the UF AHB expert responsible for AHB training.
    I was at the meeting along with Florida State Beekeepers Association officers and local beekeeper association representatives, plus some pest control, (especially All Florida Bee Removal) that are trying to stop the amendment. The beekeepers set the rules, minus liability which is Florida law.
    americasbeekeeper.com
    beekeeper@americasbeekeeper.com

  3. #3
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    Location
    Otero County, New Mexico, USA
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    Default Re: Feral Beehives a "Pest Control" resposibility?

    Too darn many rules in Florida.

  4. #4
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    Feb 2012
    Location
    Ft Myers, Fl 33967
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    Default Re: Feral Beehives a "Pest Control" resposibility?

    It would be nice if we could get the public to call Mr Page at 850 617 7997 to complain about the PCO's trying to kill all the feral bees in Fl. His email is Michael.Page@freshfromflorida.com

    The unintended consequences of this bill be a disaster.

    Maybe he will offer to pay the PCO to come kill the bees that are living in a persons house when they cannot afford the $300 + fee.

    If we all write a letter to the editor of our local paper and raise a little Hell about this excessive regulation we might be able put a stop to it. It would help if we all contact our local State legislature representative and offer to vote them out of office if they go along with Mr Page.
    You can find your representative at
    myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/representatives.aspx
    and the senators at
    flsenate.gov/Senators/

    There is an old saying about the "squeaking wheel is the one that gets greased" so we to raise our voices and let Mr Page know how we feel. Otherwise the PCO's will prevail.

    Regards
    Joe

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
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    Laurel Hill, Florida, USA
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    Default Re: Feral Beehives a "Pest Control" resposibility?

    This state just keeps finding ways to waste money dont they. If a hive is in someones house I don't have a huge problem with them spraying it. Its a nuisance. But why should tax payers pay for this. Don't get me wrong. I'd rather a beekeeper got them and saved them.

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