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    Default Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Some creeps tore apart one of my hives and sprayed RAID in it. Bees are still there, some dead ones out front. I hope they make it, as they are still clustering. But will the RAID contaminate the boxes and frames if hit?

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    First, I hope you called the sheriff and filed a report. I am not sure what the active life is for these chemicals. It probably varies by active ingredient. I think I would try to move the bees to new equipment if you have it and wash/soak the old boxes. If you can smell insecticide on the frames I think I would pitch them. Wax absorbs a lot of chemicals so I would get rid of it.

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Like hilreal said, call the sheriff or police. File a formal complaint so you have it on record in case of future incidents. I don't know what to tell you, hilreal pretty much covered what I'd say.

    I do have a couple of questions...were the can(s?) of RAID left laying nearby? Were they empty or half full? Half full cans means to me the bees might have got some shots in...maybe. If they maybe got a few shots in then definitely ask around about anybody getting several bee stings recently...maybe even ask the local ER (you never know!). Is there a chance of fingerprints? Smooth cans are nice for fingerprints.

    Best wishes, hope the colony pulls through!
    Ed

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Well the can was empty, did file a report. They are not going to waste time on this...I will say it looks like the front porch got the worst of it. I looked in there in the evening and they were clustered, pretty good size of them. I smelled honey coming from the entrance.

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Look on the ingredient label. Probably cypermethrin, which does not have a long half life.

    If the bees are still alive, probably they will be fine as the active ingredient will only last a couple days at most, and if they are clustered, it will be gone before they contact it.

    Do not allow the authorities to ignore this -- I'm quite certain $250 is well above the level at which vandalism mutates into criminal mischief, which is much more involved. If the guy at the desk won't do anything, find out who his boss is and keep going up until you get someone off their ass and at LEAST get fingerprints on file. Never too early to nip criminal activity in the bud.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Quote Originally Posted by psfred View Post
    Look on the ingredient label. Probably cypermethrin, which does not have a long half life.

    If the bees are still alive, probably they will be fine as the active ingredient will only last a couple days at most, and if they are clustered, it will be gone before they contact it.
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    Peter
    This is what's confusing me...I just punched in Lake County, IL into NOAA's forecast and it says 65F-70F for the next few days and the lows at night above 50F.....the bees aren't going to stay in cluster at these temps are they? With an empty can of spray you gotta figure they emptied it in the hive...I'd be swapping the bottom board/box out ASAP. I don't know what to tell ya about the frames/comb...it's gotta be compromised, too. Any bees coming and going will have to travel through the contaminated area.

    Yes, I'd be the squeaky wheel with the sheriff department or whoever. How about calling your state agricultural office and state apiary department. Squeak, squeak, squeak....

    Ed

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    Quote Originally Posted by psfred View Post
    Never too early to nip criminal activity in the bud.

    Peter
    It's a shame they aren't pickin bird shot out of their back right now. :/
    Don't laugh it's paid for. -- Manure draws more flies than honey.

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    Default Re: Vandals sprayed RAID...can I salvage comb or equipment?

    I would replace the bottom box and bottom board and put a box on top with drawn frames if you have them. Clean your contaminated box and bottom board with soapy water and reuse. Throw away the bottom frames. Did you find the queen?
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