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  1. #1
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    Question Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam???

    Hello all!

    I am in zone 7a, just to get that out of the way

    It has been really cool some nights here lately, I think winter is coming early.

    Anyway, I installed mouse guards on both hives. They are the ones from Dadant, and have the holes, ect.

    However, it looks like a MAJOR traffic jam going on, and some look like they are having a hard time figuring it all out.

    Do I leave them on? Or do I take them off and put them back in later on in the year?????

    Please help!! They are doing so good, I don't want to mess up! But I don't want any mice going in there either!

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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    Leave em on. They will figure it out.
    Raising Vermont Bees one mistake at a time.
    USDA Zone 5A

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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    Keth - based on what? Not arguing. This is just a question I've never really gotten answered - when the heck do I put them on? We've been getting 50ish nights but up to 90 in the day. What is my guide? Around here they just seem to wait for a date.
    Zone 7b ~ Central Arkansas
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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    Bees start to cluster when the temperatures are on the average around 50 degrees, this would be a good time to install mouse guards, it would be a sorry mouse that would enter a hive this time of the year with temperatures above 50. My hives are still very active and I will be waiting to place mine on at a later date, I do not want to impede traffic.
    Bill...in Southeast Ohio Zone 6A

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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    Think of a feral hive in a tree with a three square inch entrance. They seem to do fine all year with that size. Personally I think you could leave mouse guards on all year and the bees would be fine. It is the human condition to try and out think the bees and make their life "better" by opening the entrance during the summer. I put them on after I treat with MAQS in August and leave them till spring. Do I need them always?? No. Could I leave them on all year long and not worry? Yes. Probably should do that but I try to out think the bees and what they need and as a result I manipulate more than is probably needed.
    Raising Vermont Bees one mistake at a time.
    USDA Zone 5A

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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    For all you Psych students... There is a name for that "out-thinking" - it is called Theory of Mind. The way humans rationalize what someone or something else wants or needs by empathizing themselves in that person or creature's place. I think we are all guilty of it.

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    Default Re: Is it time for mouse guards? I have mine on, and it looks like major traffic jam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keth Comollo View Post
    Think of a feral hive in a tree with a three square inch entrance. They seem to do fine all year with that size. Personally I think you could leave mouse guards on all year and the bees would be fine.
    My observations of feral hives in trees is that they have a much smaller population than a production hive. Probably since the space inside is much smaller. I like my bees to be able to fly at will until the first frost. That's when I put my mouse guards [1/2" hardware cloth] on.

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