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  1. #1
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    Default Losing lots of hives this fall

    We seem to be losing a lot of hives. some yards fell apart in a matter of 10 days.
    any one else seeing this?
    top deep plugged with honey and a fist full of bee's
    clean bottom board

    bad year for mites but seems like there is more to it.

    old queens is one thing but jeez all these failing new queens is scary

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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Quote Originally Posted by benstung View Post
    bad year for mites but seems like there is more to it.
    Ben, sounds like V mites. When was the last time you treated? hope things work out.
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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Benstung: I don't like the sound of that. Our bees seem to be holding up really well. Did all of your bees get a brood break this spring? I have been concerned about this year being bad for varroa because of how early things were but so far that hasn't been the case for us. Has this problem been in just select yards or have you been seeing it across the board?
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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    treated spring with formic but a low dosage. same formic treatment few days after honey was pulled. it was killing lots of mites, i checked.

    most hives got a break in the brood cycle, one load was neglected.

    some yards have a few blank spots and others are 50% loss.

    i am looking at some frames from banged out hives today and it looks like we have foul brood. and mites

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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Not an operation on a scale of yours, I'm sure but...in June I noted that 30+% of the drone brood I uncapped had mites and a substantial number of those were multi-foundress infestations. The numbers were so much higher than I normally see at that time, that I did a midsummer round with hopguard. I blamed the high levels with a lack of brood break during the winter.
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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Quote Originally Posted by benstung View Post
    treated spring with formic but a low dosage. same formic treatment few days after honey was pulled. it was killing lots of mites, i checked.

    most hives got a break in the brood cycle, one load was neglected.

    some yards have a few blank spots and others are 50% loss.

    i am looking at some frames from banged out hives today and it looks like we have foul brood. and mites
    Was the "neglected" load worse? The queen loss thing is puzzling since I felt there were some ideal mating conditions down south this year. We haven't seen the usual attrition that I would blame on poor matings.
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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Yes it seems that the bee's that were split with a mated queen as well as the old queens are worse off. (but they made alot of honey)
    yards today were much better but still think its a bad year for mites.

    the fact that they started the summer with a higher mite count even if it was only %3 was the difference. but im sure it was the same last year and the bee's looked alot better???????

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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    Quote Originally Posted by benstung View Post
    same formic treatment few days after honey was pulled. it was killing lots of mites, i checked.
    Formic can give inconsistant results from one hive to another. If it was killing lots of mites, (there were lots available to be killed), then it's highly likely there'll be a percentage of hives still with decent mite numbers at end of treatment.
    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    Default Re: Losing lots of hives this fall

    ttt
    anything more to it than just mites????
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