Hello, Westernbeek!
One idea that you might consider is buying the operation over time, say 3 to 5 years. You agree with the owner to pay a certain amount in 3 or 5 yearly installments. You make the offer based on the expected price for the operation and the amount you conservatively think you will make from honey sales.
In other words, use the owner as a bank: You get started with the business, he defers payment for most of it based on his expectation that you will succeed and make good on your promise to pay $x each year.
You may think that this is asking a lot of the owner, and it is, but you may not have much competition for buying the operation. So, in effect, you may be his only buyer, or, if other potential buyers are located at a distance, you may be the one that the owner finds easiest to sell to. And, if the price you agree on is fair to him, it might be the best price he can get--better than from nearby commercial beekeepers.
This idea turns your hard work over the 3 to 5 years into full business ownership without getting a loan (i.e., without taking on debt).
Finally, I'm impressed with the insights provided above on this thread. They all add up to planning to set aside time and money to meet the unexpected.
Best to you! You've got the gumption and confidence that are needed. And the wisdom to ask for help and insight as you did here!
Peter



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I will have a meeting with the boss in early-mid October, and I will discuss quite a few things with him then. I really like the idea of paying in installments. I really would rather not have to borrow; and I may not need to. I also could work for equity, but I really like the installments idea. Someone mentioned learning to be a "McIver"; I pretty much am one. I will not throw any equipment away until it is TOTALLY unfixable. I patch knotholes with tin can lids, and I build all my own equipment except for frames. If I find old equipment for cheaper than I can build, I buy and fix up. Anyway, I will be rereading this thread many times!
Thanks, KiloCharlie, for the congrats; is there any benefits to that (starting a five-star thread)? Thanks all, for everything so far!














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