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    Default Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Can an experienced beekeeper tell me what would be a reasonable price to charge for the management of 8 colonies? This would be EVERYTHING you do to successfully manage them with visits approximately every 7-10 days throughout the seasons. This price would not include cost of bees, woodenware, feed, medications, misc. items or mileage reimbursement to and from the site. Just the set price for management or you could tell me how much per hive you would charge for the season...thanks for any responses.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Nate, are you an experienced beekeeper? The reasonable price might be different.
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Ace I asked for experienced beekeepers input so I could get an answer not a question. It should be assumed that if your going to be paid to
    manage someone elses colonies you know what your doing.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Ellis View Post
    It should be assumed that if your going to be paid to
    manage someone elses colonies you know what your doing.
    LOL if you know what you are doing do you need to ask what to get paid?
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    I agree with Ace. It's a reasonable question. "Experienced" has different levels. I'm a senior engineer at a large company. There are plenty of other experienced engineers who nevertheless have less experience than I do. They are correspondingly less expensive to employ (which in this economy makes me worry at times!).

    If you state you have "X' years of experience, a beek with "Y" years who manages hives can help you determine a fair cost.
    Don't provoke a hive full of angry bees.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Nate, I charge $50/hive (average), but I only open the hives 3 or 4 times during the year on average. Sometimes there are extra visits/inspections if the bees are having problems. Whenever possible I get the "wanna bee beekeeper" for some help while learning. If all of the hives are in the same apiary, I may charge less. If it's a single hive I may charge more.
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    LOL as usual your insight is irrelevent. I dont know why you even respond to so many posts because you never have anything valuable to share you obviously have no clue how to keep bees but try to represent as someone who does. I know what I will charge to make it worthwile for me personally. I want to know what others would charge as a point of reference and comparison for my own information. So Ace if you dont have a concrete answer to share which I know you dont stop hijackin my post.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    A reasonable rate will vary not only with the experience of the beekeeper, but the market he is in.
    Just an a house in Elmira, NY that sells for $40,000 might get $350,000 in Redmond, Wa, nearly as much working in a rural area on the Canadian border for managing bees as he might in Portland, Oregon.

    You're not providing enough information to receive a meaningful answer.

    Where you plan on marketing your service will have a great deal to do with what would be reasonable to charge.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Nate has experience keeping bees. I don't think either Splatt or Acebird know the answer to Nate's question, no matter how many years experience Nate has or they would have answered what seemed to me a pretty straightforward question.

    Nate, I would not manage someone elses colonies for anything less than 60% of the extracted honey. And the owner extracts or pays for the extracting.

    Let's say in Morristown you managed 8 hives for someone and you got them to produce 60 lbs of honey each hive, which over the years is about what you could expect, so if you took 60% of 60lbs of honey you would end up w/ 288lbs of honey. Selling that in bulk in today's Market you could glean $532.80 to $576.00 for your trouble. Divide that by 8 hives and you get $66..60 to $72.00 per hive.

    If you charged someone $75.00 per colony do you think you would have the insentive to do the same quality a job as if you managed them on a per lbs of honey basis?
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Who has time to visit every 7-10days during the season, why would you need to and wouldn't that attention to frequency of inspections increase the price and your costs substantially? I go once a month.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beregondo View Post
    Where you plan on marketing your service will have a great deal to do with what would be reasonable to charge.
    Being acquainted w/ Nate somewhat, and reading his original post, I get the feeling he already has someone who wants him to manage their hives. He isn't Marketing his services. He seems to already have a job. Hopefully he hasn't boxed himself in yet.

    Anybody I know Nate?
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Nate has experience keeping bees. I don't think either Splatt or Acebird know the answer to Nate's question.
    I don't, and with a whopping 2 months of experience as an adult beekeeper I wouldn't dream of answering.

    I was merely pointing out that in a professional setting (money is exchanging hands for this proposed service, correct?), an inquiry as to experience level is perfectly reasonable.
    Don't provoke a hive full of angry bees.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Perhaps, but not pertinent really. It's not like you or anyone else is interviewing him for a job.

    Nate, every 7 to 10 days seems excessive to me, unless youy are managing them for comb honey and need to cut out queen cells. Is that what you are thinking of doing?
    Last edited by sqkcrk; 09-15-2012 at 06:44 PM.
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Mark thanks for bringing the clarity. I was thinking 75 per colony so I was in the ballpark. Your right Ive got a guy who has expanded his orchard quite nicely and has wanted me to set up over there for years. Hes not satisfied with his current pollinator. Never interested me to put my bees over there but now hes offering to pay all expenses to set up permanent new hives from packages. Just show up and manage them. I try to do 10 day inspections to cut cells for nucs if I can. Ive got summers off so Ive got to fill my time somehow. Thanks again and BTW yes those were hive beetles I found this summer.

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Ted not supplying him w/ decent hives?
    Mark Berninghausen "That which works, persists."

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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Stay with it Nate & good luck..... it's hard to soar with the eagles when your surrounded by turkeys. lol
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    LOL if you know what you are doing do you need to ask what to get paid?
    Ace, do you even know what an answer looks like? It's fairly simple to look at the members profile and see that they joined the group 4 years ago. And no it would not be unusual for an experienced beekeeper to not know what monetary value to put on their skills. that was clearly indicated in a past thread on the value of an apiary. Which if I remember correctly you thought had no importance.
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Nate, I know of one experienced local beekeeper that is running a hive adoption program and charges $750 a year per hive. He supplies everything though. We also have people here with chandeliers in their carports larger than their cars. We are less than an hour from Lake Tahoe which is one of the wealthiest regions in the country and have customers that own little businesses like Caesars Casino. People travel here from all over the world to throw their money away. it comes cheap and easy to us.
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    Default Re: Reasonable price for annual management of colonies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beregondo View Post
    You're not providing enough information to receive a meaningful answer.
    Now you are asking questions Mark? I thought you were not suppose to.
    Is that what you are thinking of doing?
    Here is a concrete answer. I will manage your hives for 35.00 a piece. Let me know when you want to sign the contract, I already have it typed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Y View Post
    We are less than an hour from Lake Tahoe which is one of the wealthiest regions in the country and have customers that own little businesses like Caesars Casino.
    You will never find the filthy rich in a area with out the dirt poor to take advantage of no matter where you go in the world.
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