Well after a quite heated debate on treatment free I must say my first year so far has been a good success. I only feed when necessary and have put no foundations or foreign substances in any of my five hives. My mite count might as well be null because there might be one here or there. No wax moths or nosema to speak of. I have had to do a little manipulation with a couple of the hives that wanted to make a little messed up combs, but that was very quick and easy. They are now getting into the fall flow and looking very healthy and happy. I found out making my own equipment was the best way to go. Next year I will start splitting these hives as many times as possible to enhance my yard. Why waste money when you let bees be bees.