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  1. #1
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    Question Glue for Hive and Frames

    I am getting ready to do my 10 frame Cypress hive. Which All-weather Wood Glue is the best to use?

    The two I am looking at- Titebond III and Gorilla wood Glue.

    Thanks Tim

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Titebond3

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I use titebond II for frames, which are not likely to be exposed to water. It's cheaper than Titebond III
    I use titebond III for anything exterior that might get wet- covers, bottom boards, boxes and feeders.

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Ditto.

    Titebond III for everything.
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Titebond by all means...

    NEVER use Gorrilla - it foams up and pushed the wood apart and leaves a mess

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I use Titebond II for everything.
    Beekeeper? Shoot, my bees keep me!
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Tightbond II for anything that is painted and not submerged. Wipe with alcohol on cedar and oily wood (added that because not certain if Cypress is or not). My cedar takes a little while longer to come up to full strength. I think II is food labeled but I don’t think III is. I get it by the gallon and am way too cheap to stock two different glues (can get a gallon for about ½ the per oz price of a small bottle, again see cheap).
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I previously used several other glues, but, since I began using Titebond III, I now use nothing else.

    I too buy it by the gallon, much more economical. I simply fill plastic squeeze bottles with the yellow screw-on plastic lids and caps (often used for honey dispenser bottles), with Titebond III and use that as an applicator.
    48 years - 50 hives - TF
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Gorilla wood glue doesn't foam and works well but I use titebond

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I use titebond II on frames and screws on my supers, no glue.

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Thanks for all the replies. So then Gorilla is out. What is the Differ between Titebond 2 and 3? I see both have FDA indirect food labeling

    Thanks again Tim

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by T.Byrd View Post
    Thanks for all the replies. So then Gorilla is out. What is the Differ between Titebond 2 and 3? I see both have FDA indirect food labeling

    Thanks again Tim
    Titebond 2 is water resistant and can be used down to 55F and Titebond 3 is waterproof and can be used down to 45F.

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by T.Byrd View Post
    Thanks for all the replies. So then Gorilla is out. What is the Differ between Titebond 2 and 3? I see both have FDA indirect food labeling

    Thanks again Tim
    Tite bond III is waterproof

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I use titebond II on everything, hivebodies and frames. I also have started painting titebond II on the exposed wood grain on hivebodies and then of course the normal paint on top of that. I figure since that area is the weakest link that hitting it with a water resistant glue was a good deal. If I remember properly the difference in the "water proofness" between II and III for beekeepers is negligible. Someone on here a long time ago had posted the tests that titebond uses on the different glues and I think the difference was something like dipping fully cured II in water and it was just fine, and putting fully cured III in like boiling water and it held up better. I know our hives get hot and wet sometimes, but I figure II is gonna be just fine. On the added cost and time of painting the exposed grain with titebond II, What's a hivebody cost? 7-15$, it doesn't take but a few cents of glue and not long to do for a bit of added insurance. I even paint the edges of the plywood that I make the D.Coates 5 frame nucs with, figure they might last longer than me. LOL
    Rod

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    I've used Titebond II for years and have never had any kind of joint failure. I tried Titebond III this year and will probably stick with it from now on. It costs a little more but the per piece increase is insignificant. It seems to give you more time for squaring up before initial set.
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    I like Titebond II. III sets up much faster, not a problem for frames and boxes but I use it for other stuff, too.
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Titebond III
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    cg3, according to the manufacturer, Titebond II has a total assembly time of 10 -15 minutes, and Titebond III has a total assembly time of 20-25 minutes.
    48 years - 50 hives - TF
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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Thanks For all the replies. III it is then.

    Have a great weekend to all. Tim

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    Default Re: Glue for Hive and Frames

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Clemens View Post
    cg3, according to the manufacturer, Titebond II has a total assembly time of 10 -15 minutes, and Titebond III has a total assembly time of 20-25 minutes.
    You're right. I garbled my response.
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