Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Island Pond VT (N.E.K.)
    Posts
    21

    Default REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    I have started 5 hives this year 3 Langstroth Hives and 2 TBH. The TBH seem in my novice opion to be ahead of the 3 Langs. The Langs only have 2 8 frame mediums mostly filled with brood. The season seems to be cominng to an end and I am looking for advice. Is there any hope if I feed them for them to winter over??? Any and all suggestions/opinions welcome especially anyone else this far north (20 min from Canadian border in VT)

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Litchfield, CT, USA
    Posts
    430

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Shane,

    We have some property near Norton VT where are you located?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Island Pond VT (N.E.K.)
    Posts
    21

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Island Pond

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Brainerd, MN
    Posts
    533

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    I'm not sure how different your climate is to mine, but I would be concerned if my colonies had only two 8 frame mediums. My weakest Lang has 2 deeps and a mostly filled medium (8 frame).
    Not Michael Bush. My name is Dan. Sorry for the confusion.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Litchfield, CT, USA
    Posts
    430

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Very cool. I drive right through there on 114 on my way north. We have property on Brouseau Mt about 10 min east of Norton heading towards Averill. We will have to meet sometime. My plan is to start some gives up there next spring but I am concerned about how they would fair the winter.

    I would have to concur with the previous post that 2 medium 8's is very light. How much honey do they have socked away?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Island Pond VT (N.E.K.)
    Posts
    21

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Not much honey stocked I really don't know what happened they seemed to be doing good but summer flew by. So is there any hope should I start feeding now???

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,503

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Island Pond, Northeast Kingdom, Vermont. Winter comes early and stays late.

    I've wintered bees in double, ten frame mediums, on the other side of the state. Different worlds the Champlain valley and the Kingdom. Still, I would try. Start feeding 2:1 now. Give each a gallon can above the inner cover hole. That should get them going. You'll want th feed enough to get their weight up to 80 - 90 pounds by the end of September.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Menomonee Falls, Wis.
    Posts
    2,738

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Not contradicting Mr. Palmer, but it is easier to bulk up the feed later than to bulk up the population. Do as he says , but focus on populations first.

    Crazy Roland

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Litchfield, CT, USA
    Posts
    430

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Is 2:1 for population growth and 1:1 for food stores. God not another thread on syrup ratios!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Palermo, Maine, USA
    Posts
    731

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Quote Originally Posted by dnichols View Post
    Is 2:1 for population growth and 1:1 for food stores.
    The other way around. 2:1 is a heavier concentration of sugar, and helps build up stores faster.
    Like us on facebook This is the place to bee!
    Ralph

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Winhall, VT
    Posts
    1,066

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    If your goal is to feed them sugar then give them the thickest syrup you can make. This time of year in Vermont 1:1 takes eons to evaporate down to where it will be capped. Go with 2:1 as Mike says.
    Raising Vermont Bees one mistake at a time.
    USDA Zone 5A

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    St. Albans, Vermont
    Posts
    5,503

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    I don't feel contradicted Roland. Where Shane keeps bees...The Kingdom...can have first frost at any time now. He says his Langs are full of brood but very light. I feel he needs to get some feed on them immediately so brood rearing continues and the bees can start storing winter feed. I'm not sure how, at this time in the season, and where he is keeping bees, that he can do anything to boost population.

    I never feed 1:1. Our nectar flows, starting early, provide that. If they need feed, for survival or winter stores, feed them 2:1, as they need sugar not water.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Island Pond VT (N.E.K.)
    Posts
    21

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Well I thought I was jumping the gun but, I fed them yesterday 5:3 how 'bout that for a feed ratio forum. I don't know much but, I am scared to start a robbing frenzy and help with that? It seems from what I read it's just hit or miss and I need to keep an eye out...

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Menomonee Falls, Wis.
    Posts
    2,738

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    Glad I did not step on your toes, Mr. Palmer.

    Should the thickness of the syrup be gauged so that the time the syrup is applied is the longest, but yet when the time is up, the hive is full? Case in point, if the syrup was too thin, the hive would not have put away sufficient stores in time, but if the syrup was too think, they would be full before time was up, and would not have as much time for stimulation to raise brood?

    With apologies to the OP for straying of topic, my son thinks that one 4 gallon pail of feed is better than 2 - 2gallon pails of feed, because with the break in feed, the queen/bees think that it is not worth ramping up egg laying for only 2 gallons.

    Crazy Roland

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Island Pond VT (N.E.K.)
    Posts
    21

    Default Re: REAL Northern Beekeeping Feeding Question

    'Nother Question about feeding.....
    There seems to be quite a bit of robbing going on across the board, all five hive seem to be robbing or attempting to rob each other. So what is the best solution? I reduced all the entrances but I am wondering about if I should continue to feed or stop for now. The weather has been decent and I have seen alot of golden rod aster and Japanese knotweed still in bloom.

    Thanks,
    Shane

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Ads