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    Default Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    We've had to listen to Jolly Ollie brag all year about all the swarms he's caught so let's see how well he does at keeping them alive all winter.

    We'll go by number of hives lost beginning October 1, 2012 thru March 1, 2013. Check in with the number of hives you have as of October 1st. if you want to participate so get done with all your combines and such before then.

    Ollie may be old, bald and cheap but he's as honest as they come so we'll go by the honor system like we did the swarm challenge. Last I heard, Ollie had 60 hives. Is that right Ollie?
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    I'm glad you are starting this 10/1 because I already lost a few in August that I now won't have to count. The crawlers are out in full force so the fun begins. That is probably a good starting date because I caught a swarm in September last year.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Is there going to be a non-treatment and treatment category to make this more fair? Remember, I have been going bareback for years now.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    Is there going to be a non-treatment and treatment category to make this more fair? Remember, I have been going bareback for years now.
    I don't know what you mean by "bareback" and please don't tell us. Let's not get into treatment vs. non-treatment. Let each beekeeper stand on their own personal beekeeping beliefs and philosophy.
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Mine and Watsee's vote is non-treat.
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    We don't have to debate treatment VS non-treatment, just declare what category we are in. That information might swing me back into treating or indicate that treating is not working for some. I quit using apistan because my bees still died. If I hear the people using some of the more recently available treatments are getting great over wintering success, I might want to start trying them. I am not a competitive person, I just want to learn what can improve my overwintering success and what exactly is killing my bees.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Ok I'll jump in.
    8 hives Treatment free
    Last edited by johnth78; 08-31-2012 at 09:28 AM.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Charlie, update the subject with the starting date.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Who won the swarm challenge?
    Hopefully my 4 will still be in existence in Oct. No treatments from me.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaBees View Post
    Who won the swarm challenge?
    Hopefully my 4 will still be in existence in Oct. No treatments from me.
    Jolly Ollie won fair and square. http://www.beesource.com/forums/show...234#post844234
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    We don't have to debate treatment VS non-treatment, just declare what category we are in. That information might swing me back into treating or indicate that treating is not working for some. I quit using apistan because my bees still died. If I hear the people using some of the more recently available treatments are getting great over wintering success, I might want to start trying them. I am not a competitive person, I just want to learn what can improve my overwintering success and what exactly is killing my bees.
    Alright fine, since the challenge is in your name. Everyone check in with your number of hives and your treatment category. No debate on what the definition of treatment free is. Just state if you treat or not according to your own personal definition that you keep to yourself.
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    I will be going into winter with 14 hives all were wintered over or splits from my hives. I am completely treatment free.

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    >We'll go by number of hives lost beginning October 1, 2012 thru March 1, 2013.

    This is what you say in post #1. Clearly the man able to slaughter the most hives wins and that will be me. How else would I develop enough old black comb to win the 2013 Bait Hive Challenge?

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    >We'll go by number of hives lost beginning October 1, 2012 thru March 1, 2013.

    This is what you say in post #1. Clearly the man able to slaughter the most hives wins and that will be me. How else would I develop enough old black comb to win the 2013 Bait Hive Challenge?

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Quote Originally Posted by odfrank View Post
    How else would I develop enough old black comb to win the 2013 Bait Hive Challenge?
    BTW, it's ON in the spring. I'm determined to beat you in the 2013 swarm challenge. I'm dedicating this entire winter to building swarm traps. With Fuzzy's donation, I've got enough comb to compete!
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    I'm still at 7 with 2 of them being weak. One is very light, & wouldn't take feed. If I pull through this winter with 100% survival like I did the last two I'll be very surprised.
    Dan

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Is it too late to come in? I have 4 hives since Oct 1.
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    You're the last late entry Meridith, good luck!
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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    Lost a second one this week, so am down to 11 from 13 so far.
    “When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world.” – John Muir

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    Default Re: Are you ready for the Odfrank overwintering challenge?

    So far I still have all four but work and Family medical emergiencies have kept me from getting my winter covers with candy on the hives. Should hit 50 tomorrow with no wind so I am going for it and will hope for no ill effects!
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