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    Default 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Thought someone else might need this, Joe

    5:3 FALL SUGAR WATER MIX

    Five Parts SUGAR TO Three parts WATER


    4# SUGAR (64 OUNCES) 2 # WATER39 OZ.+/- 1 QUARTS
    5# SUGAR (80 OUNCES) 3# WATER 48 OZ. 1 QUARTS
    8# SUGAR (128 OUNCES) 5# WATER 80 OZ. +/- 2 QUARTS
    9# SUGAR (144 OUNCES) 5# WATER 90 OZ. +/- 2 QUARTS
    10# SUGAR (160 OUNCES) 6# WATER 96 OZ. 3 QUARTS

    Note: The sugar plus the water makes slightly more than twice the water, e.g., 5 pounds of sugar plus 1 1/2 quarts of water will produce about 3 1/4 cups of sugar water.

    Thanks to Mike Bush for suggesting my making 5:3 ratio rather than 2:1 for fall feeding; this is working much better.
    Last edited by Hoosier; 08-16-2012 at 04:33 AM.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    my bees are going to town on this!

    Taking a 5lb bag and 3 pint jars of hot water....working like a champ!

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    What problem does 5:3 solve that is caused by 2:1? If it just works better, what specifically works better? Thanks.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by krad1964 View Post
    What problem does 5:3 solve that is caused by 2:1? If it just works better, what specifically works better? Thanks.
    It's easier to get it all dissolved, and after a few days there are no signs of crystallizing.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    It's easier to get it all dissolved, and after a few days there are no signs of crystallizing.
    5:3 won't crystallize all the way down to 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius)

    Tony P.
    There must be a harder way to do that... let me find it for you.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Thanks. I'll give it a try. Looks like:

    25# SUGAR - 15# WATER - 7.5 QUARTS

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by krad1964 View Post
    Thanks. I'll give it a try. Looks like:

    25# SUGAR - 15# WATER - 7.5 QUARTS
    Yep, and it ought to make about two gallons for you. Be sure that it boils somewhat as you stir it.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Anyone know how close just using a quart mason jar for measurement would get this ratio???

    Example... 5 quarts Sugar;3 quarts Water.

    I'm thinking it's got to be pretty close but not exact.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    I would weigh the sugar instead of measure it...I think that is what is meant in the recipe (though Im not sure how much a quart of sugar weighs....)

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quart of sugar = 26.6 ounces

    Quart of water = 32 ounces

    This is full to the top of the jar.

    So for a 5:3 need 5 quart of sugar(133 ounces) and 2 1/2 quart of water(80 ounces)
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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    OK, so it sounds like you can do 2 cups of sugar to one of water, and just multiply it to your needs. Of course I was taught math in a public school, so there you go.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    My tap water must be too hot as I can make 2:1 all day long without having to boil anything.
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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Michael Bush does all the figuring for you on this. Go to Bush Bee Farm:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfeeding.htm#ratios
    Last edited by Myron Denny; 08-17-2012 at 07:35 PM. Reason: added info

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Myron Denny View Post
    Michael Bush does all the figuring for you on this. Go to Bush Bee Farm:
    http://www.bushfarms.com/beesfeeding.htm#ratios
    And on that page Michael Bush says, " I use more like 5:3 (sugarater) all the time. It keeps better than 1:1 and is easier to dissolve than 2:1."

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by mgolden View Post
    Quart of sugar = 26.6 ounces

    Quart of water = 32 ounces

    This is full to the top of the jar.

    So for a 5:3 need 5 quart of sugar(133 ounces) and 2 1/2 quart of water(80 ounces)
    Not really:
    One cup of sugar weighs 220 grams
    /One quart of sugar weighs 880 grams = 31.04077 ounces (almost 2 pounds)
    5 X 31.04 = 155.2 ounces of sugar (almost 10 pounds) SO 3 X 31 = 93 ounces or about 3 quarts of water
    Last edited by Hoosier; 08-21-2012 at 02:10 AM.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by shannonswyatt View Post
    OK, so it sounds like you can do 2 cups of sugar to one of water, and just multiply it to your needs. Of course I was taught math in a public school, so there you go.
    Not really:
    1 cup of sugar=220 grams
    2 cups of sugar=440 grams = 15.52 ounces (almost one pound)
    1 cup of water= 8 ounces=227 grams= (1/2 pound) so You would be doing a 2:1 mix not a 5:3
    You could do 2 cups of sugar with 9.3 ounces (264 grams) of water; that would give you a 5:3 ratio.
    Last edited by Hoosier; 08-21-2012 at 02:56 AM.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by JYawn View Post
    Anyone know how close just using a quart mason jar for measurement would get this ratio???

    Example... 5 quarts Sugar;3 quarts Water.

    I'm thinking it's got to be pretty close but not exact.
    Yep, close enough.

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Math is hard, my head hurts. Why can't they make sugar weigh as much as water? <grin>

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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    Not really:
    One cup of sugar weighs 220 grams
    /One quart of sugar weighs 880 grams = 31.04077 ounces (almost 2 pounds)
    5 X 31.04 = 155.2 ounces of sugar (almost 10 pounds) SO 3 X 31 = 93 ounces or about 3 quarts of water
    Not worthy of a response, but go weigh a quart completely full of water and a quart completely full of sugar, as I did.

    shannonswyatt nails it - multiples of 2 cups of sugar to 1 cup of water will make very close to 5:3 sysrup mixture.

    Simpler yet, is two volumes of sugar to one volume of water gives very close to 5:3.
    Last edited by mgolden; 08-21-2012 at 09:21 AM.
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    Default Re: 5:3 fall sugar water mix

    Woo hoo! I got one right!

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