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    Default Big brother is watching

    I know this may not be the right forum but I do think this is of general interest.

    You know, the whole internet thing is a bit scary. Some months ago I looked at a website that compared the prices of pickup trucks. Next thing I knew, everywhere I went on the web there were ads for pickup trucks….even here on Beesource. I understand the concept of targeted ads. But today…on Beesource one of the ads had a series of photos of hot looking, young women and the text read ‘We aren’t looking for young men, we want you.’

    Somehow, the internet marketing bots figured out I’m male, older and single.
    I don’t use any online dating service, frequent girly, porn or guy only sites. Basically, I bank, read the news, check the weather and visit Beesource.

    I didn’t follow the link. I’m confident that none of those babes are really interested in a 60 year old, bald, beekeeping geezer. And, truth be told, I was involved with some twentish women when I was twentish….and I have no desire to repeat the experience.

    At what point does this sort of thing become an invasion of privacy?
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    I had the same ad.... found it rather odd to see it here, so it really stood out.

    You can thank Google for all this... I never choose to believe the conspiracy theories, but I love reading them. Listen to those guys about what Google has their hands into, and you start going down some scary paths.

    Essentially, it all breaks down to this: Google = Cyberdyne from the Terminator movies. I like how I now get the YouTube pop-up ads in videos that are now selling me BK supplies.

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    Quote Originally Posted by TokerM View Post
    You can thank Google for all this...
    There may be some truth in this. I used to use Gmail until I saw several targeted ads that I could only associate with private emails that I'd sent. I mentioned it to a friend and he said he'd had the same issue with Gmail. As you might imagine, I no longer use Gmail.
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    Internet adversing is a simple thing to understand, "if you are receiving a service and not paying for it, you are not a customer, you are the product"
    If you use the no script extension in your web browser you wont get any adds. Also set your web browser to clear all history , cookies and cache upon exiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by certaut View Post
    Internet adversing is a simple thing to understand
    I am a pretty simple fellow…but I do understand cookies and caches. I really don’t care if the ads are present or not. It is when those ads are unrelated to my web browsing and yet appear to be accurately targeted to my demographic profile that I become a bit concerned.
    Dan www.boogerhillbee.com
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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    I'll get worried when I see an add in the Beesource margins asking if I want to increase the size of my stinger.



    Interestingly, I'm in about the same demographic (44 yr old, balding, weight-gaining caucasian beek) and my ad at the top of beesources is for The Salvation Army.
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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    The government needs to know everything, like if you intend to buy tube socks this weekend or not.!!
    Then they can create a committee to research the amount of money lost due to sock un-pairing.
    Now about your truck...The govt "recommends" that you buy a GM, while using Aig for financing.

    I am married and 37 and the "ladies" are on the top of my page too. Are the demographics telling us what we "should" want? I think one of those ladies is my aunt. JJ
    You have to get a stolen computer with a fake passport and enter fictitious names/emails and leave it in the woods far away from your house and bounce everything through a server in Morocco. Wear a mask and gloves when you use the computer and don't breathe on it.
    If you do all this you will probably still have ads...and they will be accurate, They just won't be in English.

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    I haven't read the whole thread where this is likely mentioned but these are tracking cookies setup by the advertisers. I think generally these can be avoided by not allowing third party cookies (an option in Firefox I know). When you go to a web site, you want it to set cookies, but if the web page has a banner pointing to a third party, that cookie can track you across multiple web sites. Often you go shopping on one site, and then they pay attention to that. If you disable those third party cookies, then that feeling of being watched goes away a bit. I also block many of the web pages that are strictly tracking (like doubleclick.net) and I cut out a lot of ads. It really depends on how nuts you want to go. I have my cookies cleared each time I close my browser which makes me feel a bit better (it's amazing how many cookies are set in just a day of browsing).

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    Of course, the first thing that you must install on your browser is an ad-blocker. The ads simply "stop."

    Second, don't consider your e-mail to be "private." Don't consider anything on the Internet to be "private."

    "Big Data Is Watching You™" ... but it is doing so with the ham-fisted approach of a young kid with a new toy who really doesn't know what to do with it. Right now, advertisers are supposed to believe that, the more closely-targeted (sic) an advertisement is to you, the more likely you are to pounce on it.

    That isn't true, of course, and it never has been true. The mere fact that I am hungry and that I encountered a pizza ad among the junk-mail in my mailbox does not in fact mean that I am going to buy a pizza right-now from this particular vendor. The mere fact that you think that I belong to this-or-that demographic slot, and that you have tried to craft an advertisement "specific to" this-or-that demographic slot, does not mean that I am in any way more likely to respond to it. But bezillions of dollars of venture capital right now are being wasted on people who think otherwise.

    Frankly, I defy anyone to spell out a better all-around advertising vehicle than Grit magazine. Or any of those (try to tell me you don't pick 'em up and read 'em even if you put 'em back ...) supermarket at-the-checkout tabloid newspapers. They didn't really care who you were. But they certainly did know "who you are." And you might not know that they published local issues, which local advertisers glommed on to with great results. Uh huh, that movie "Men In Black #1" knew exactly what it was talking about. If there were any space-aliens operating in your neighborhood, those newspapers were on it. But they produced dependable results for advertisers, and grew quite wealthy in the process, with no "tech" at all.

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    Half necked women on Beesource? I haven't seen those... All I ever see is Romney and Obama and an Energizer Bunny.

    You can opt out of targeting advertising by clicking on the right top corner of the ad.

    Facebook is real bad. They target you based on information about the people you associate with. I got an ad for Gastric bi-pass after somebody I am friends with had the procedure.

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    I get the same thing. pretty embarrassing when you sitting there with your young kids typing away and a half naked woman pops up on the right screen. Not sure why this forum doesn't have a paid version so you can stop the the ads.

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    Default Re: Big brother is watching

    Quote Originally Posted by beemandan View Post
    But today…on Beesource one of the ads had a series of photos of hot looking, young women and the text read ‘We aren’t looking for young men, we want you.’
    I got the same one, and I'm not single. It's now blocked. Not sure why it showed since I have the ad category of "dating" blocked.
    Regards, Barry

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