Re: Cut out in Womans Sunday class.
If they're in the ceiling of the first floor then it's a good chance they're in the floor of the 2nd floor. If there is a floor above them it would probably be easier on everybody if you went in from above.
A couple of positives of working from above: If there's carpeting you can pull the carpet back, cut the floor section out and when through put everything back down fairly easily and probably not much cost. You won't have to work from a ladder.
Bring plenty of empty buckets, a bucket of water, and towels.
Just a thought.
Warning: Rookie beek...take my postings with that grain of salt you keep in your pocket.